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| If it doesn't make sense that fish react to the transducer noise, then why are people seeing it? |
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Location: St Paul, Minnesota | Where do you see/hear that "it doesn't make sense that fish react to transducer noise?
It 100% makes sense that the fish feel via their lateral lines the transducer pings and on some level take that into account. If you've ever swam in the water next to a boat you yourself can hear it underwater, so it only makes sense that the even more sensitive lateral lines of fish can for sure detect it.
To me the real question becomes, to what degree does it bother the fish? And in what circumstances does it play the biggest effect?
Just thoughts,
-C7 |
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| Manufacturers made the claim for many years that fish can't hear the sonar. I'm using hummingbird helix and my previous strategy of going back to marked fish is half as effective as it was 10 years ago. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Was the sonar quieter 10 years ago than it did now? Or are there other factors? More boar traffic etc. now?
I won't say that sonar never effects fish, but I'd be more concerned about outboard motor noise and boat disturbance. I've caught thousands of fish directly under a sonar cone ice fishing. Maybe some fish were bothered by it, but not the ones I caught... |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I know of at least 1 bass tournament fisherman that prefishes with his sonar and just uses his waypoints during the tourney.
I have always preferred lures without rattles but in playing with a waterwolf camera this past summer I couldn't believe how loud both jointed and nonjointed wooden hosebaits are. The videos are on the Hosebait Facebook page.When the autopilot motors came out and they would click when adjusting I had muskies slam the motor and shake the boat many times.
So does sound repel or attract muskies I DON'T KNOW. I have always believed muskies are a curious fish and will investigate strange things in their environment and this is one reason for low slow follows. I always figured that if muskies were in the area I would at least see some sonar or not.
Edit: When I started muskie fishing many years ago there was very little pressure on my home lake and fishing was easy. 35 years later after numerous TV shows and much more pressure the fish are much more wary especially late season. So it is possible that on pressured lakes we may have to become more stealthy. Set up a drift rather than using trolling motor. No sonar and limit noise in the boat . Fish unpressured times. Even tho I have muskies 2 min. from my door I have turned my focus to the Larry and become a troller.
Edited by horsehunter 1/4/2017 12:20 PM
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| They have done studies on fish that were tagged with radio transmitters. Some fish it did not bother and other fish you could not even get close to if the trolling motor was on. There was a tagged 50 several years ago on Kinkaid. They went in with one of the local guides trying to catch this tagged fish casting. Every time they would get close to it the fish would swim away like it knew they were tying to catch it. With this in mind we do as much drifting as possible and run the graphs as little as possible. |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | I have often wondered what effect the pinging of two transducers has on fish.
That being said, I have caught more than a few Muskies on LSC with a bulldawg just dangling over the side on a 2nd rod sitting in the holder while I was casting. These fish obviously weren't bothered by the 'noise' |
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