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| Live2Fish - 3/31/2008 8:26 PM
Well if your gonna keep such a beautiful fish that may hold record breaking capabilities, you might as well get it officially weighed just in case. JMHO
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| I have to be honest, Although I spend several hours a day here, I post very little on this site, namely because I am more of an observer and will only jump in if I think I have something valuable to add. With that said, it is threads like this that make me wonder why I waste my time. I love the tidbits of valuable information here, the photos, the entertaining fish stories, etc. It's the holier than thou, elitest, and uninformed attitudes here that bore the hell out of me. I have never fished Cave Run personally, but from all I have heard over the past several years it is a phenomonal fishery, catch and keep practices and all. If the fishery is not only managed that way, but dependant on it, what is the issue? We are not talking Northern Wis, where stocking is limited and we are dependant on self sustaining lakes. Put it in perspective. I deer hunt in MO, where I grew up. A few years back the Dept of Conservation changed some of the rules to allow unlimited doe harvest in certain counties. All you can carry. There were and of course still are the hardcores that have never taken a doe, and would rather shoot a spike or 4 pointer than take a doe for fear of affecting the population. I've got news for you there a whole lot of people smarter and more informed than you and I evaluating and making these decisions. That is why they did this. As a result we have a better population of deer in the state, better buck doe ratios and significantly more trophy buck availability. Increased harvest was part of the management plan here. Guess what, it works. It is all about managing a fishery for the best possible population and species ratios. If Cave Run is managed based on certain levels of harvest, than it is to the betterment of the fishery that that occurs. It takes the die hard CPR guys as well as the die hard grab your filet knife we gotta big one fisherman to keep that balance. No one is wrong, every one is doing their part whether they realize it or not, to sustain the quality fishery that is Cave Run. IL lakes are managed for a 48" size limit, WI lakes are managed for, I think a 34" size limit these days, with a few exceptions, one being my second home which is finally a 50" limit thanks to the efforts of Mr Wild.
The primary purpose of catch and release is not so we can feel good about our selves or self promote on a website, it is for the betterment of the fishery. It seems to me that many people forget that on here. Cave Run is managed by fisheries biologists that make a living and feed there families by properly managing that resource, not by the rest of us who musky fish as a "hobby", although many of us do consider it a way of life. That fishery is dependant upon an acceptable level of harvest, just like most all musky fisheries allow for a minimal level of harvest, by simply having size limits. Does it make sense to take any fish from a self sustaining lake, I don't think so personally, but for the small handful of guys that do that is their right.
The last and only one of 2 muskies I have ever killed was in the late 80's and is hanging in my office, I have released hundreds and hundreds since, but I would be hard pressed not to take a 42lb potential state record. I'll be it the only reason I would not let that fish swim, but a valid one based on my ethics and the management philosophy of the lake.
Let's all just go out have a good time, catch some fish and enjoy these beasts rather than bitch about what one guy does. |
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| I was just down there last weekend (the 28th and 29th of March), and the two biggest muskies caught all weekend (that I know about) were by a guy fishing from shore for catfish using a bluegill as bait. Congrats to him, I wish I would have thought of that. After hearing about his catches, though, you can better believe that I snapped on a dunwright swimbait in bluegill pattern and dragged it around in three feet of water for the rest of the day... |
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| Would like some information concerning spawning Muskies. I've read that Muskies spawn when water temps reach 58 to 60 degrees. My question is: how long is the recovery period after the fish lay there eggs. When can you expect the fish (females) to feed after spawning? |
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Location: So. Illinois | Hickster,
On the lakes I fish, from the time of spawn until the time the bite turns back on it runs about 2 weeks. Depending on the makup of the lake you fish, fish in different locations spawn at different times depending on water temps. With a little research, you should still be able work around the spawn
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| The snaggers were back to work at Beaver Creek on Cave Run last week, One guy got and kept 20 good size muskies no arrest's have been made at this time. |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | Same thing happens on a lake I fish. It is very irritating especially since he is a "guide". DNR has threatened to pull his license but has done nothing yet as far as I know. I hope something happens quickly because he is destroying our fishery
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| Ryan, you may not like him, but he is not snagging on purpose is he? |
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Location: The desert | Brilliant post Mr. Paasch |
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