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Posted 7/3/2001 10:18 PM (#1724)
Subject: Boat designs.


To me the ultimate musky boat would be under 30" deep, 18-20ft. long and 90-95" wide with all the goodies inside. I was told tuffy went as far as they could with their shallow boat but euroline has a 19ft. one and I seen some 20ft. saltwater boats at bass pro in orlando with a similar hull.

I also don't get some hull designs. Why make the bottom narrow compared to the top of the boat. Modified v's are really bad and so are some v-hulls. The new trend is like what princecraft started and widened out the bottom for stability and planing. I don't get the v'ed in sides at all. Modified v's would be great but they are tippy lake boats with a narrow bottom. Anybody have any thoughts?

Posted 7/4/2001 8:55 AM (#8141)
Subject: Boat designs.


This is a three step proceedure.It sounds like you need to 1)go to the store and purchase a case of cold soda and 2)stop off on the way home to get a real big pizza and most importantly 3) sit down with Steve Worrall to hear about every kind of hull ever made since Noah made his own in his backyard so many years ago! Steve is the BOOK on boat and hull design. This is too big a subject to do it justise on this message board. In all seriousness, talk to Steve.

Posted 7/8/2001 6:40 AM (#8139)
Subject: Boat designs.


I personally think my 1995 Lakeland is the perfect muskie boat. The boat has a tri-hull design that planes out really fast and skims over the water with the smoothest ride i've ever seen, even in choppy water. The boat is an extremely stable platform, the deck is about three inches below the edge of the boat and makes a complete loop around the boat so I can literally run a fish completely around the boat. The boat only sits about eight inches above the water, so figure-eights take very little effort. It's too bad they stopped making the a couple of years ago, they couldn't compete with the bigger companies so they focused their attention on their toppers and other truck accesories. Fortunately they still servic their boats.

Derek McKnight
Stevens Point, WI

Posted 7/8/2001 9:24 AM (#8142)
Subject: Boat designs.


I have had the pleasure of fishing out of my Tuffy Esox Magnum since 1992, and a Tuffy Esox before that since 1986.
I have been in 4''waves with my Magnum, and wouldn''t want a steady diet of it but it was workable. As far as stability, I took out two guys muskie fishing last year. The smaller of the two was atleast 300+ lbs.! With all three of us standing on the same side of the boat, the boat only tilted slightly! I didn''t have any concerns about planing that day.
I have a Yamaha 115hp on my Magnum and with that set up I have had my rig up over 85mph!!!.....Of course that was on the trailer behind my Blazer going to Canada. (just seeing if you performance guys were paying attention, LOL)
There are much more expensive rigs out there but nothing that I would rather fish out of.

Posted 7/9/2001 12:38 PM (#8143)
Subject: Boat designs.


I fish out of a Warrior Falcon and I think it is a great muskie boat. I have the 1890 Falcon BT with a 90 merc tiller. I will do about 37 with me and another guy in it. The boat is 18'3" long and 90" wide. The V hull is nice because it will cut through the water and you stay pretty dry even since it is a tiller. The boat sits pretty low in the water about not nearly as low as a Esox Mag, my buddy has one that we fished out of for 6 years. I think the Esox Mag is a good boat but Cass with 6 foot rollers is NO GOOD. The warrior will be a lot better. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Chip

Posted 7/9/2001 9:29 PM (#8140)
Subject: Boat designs.


Hull design is usually a combination of availability, ease of Manufacture, and interior design, coupled with performance desires.

There is not alot one can do with a traditionally welded or riveted hull out of aluminum due to the limited forming capacity of the hull material. The fiberglass hulls are molded, so the only limits are the engineering capacities of the designer.

The wider the top, and narrower the bottom chine to chine, the more the boat will 'tip', and the better the ride in rough water. A very wide bottom that is flat to sponsoned will offer a superior at rest platform, and a 'rougher' ride in big water. A V hull, with reversed chines and a relatively narrow running bottom, can give good stability and a great ride in the rough stuff.

Just because the hull has a pointed end, it is not necessarily a true V hull. There are many modified V hull aluminums out there with VERY flat bottoms, and hence, rougher rides than the true V hulls.

It is tough to get the exact 'mix' any one angler is looking for, so there are literally dozens of designs to choose from. Quality is number one, and hull design coupled with a workable layout and storage number two, in my opinion.
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