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Location: Algonquin, ILL | If that pic was Photoshopped they did a really GREAT JOB taking into consideration sun angles and shadows
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | I can verify it...I was there actually
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Location: Tomahawk, Wisconsin | Gander your skill astounds me!!!!! Nice!!!!!!! |
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| Photo shop my ars!!
Ive been where that picture was taken and know excatly where he was. Fish of this caliber are very much a reality in this section of river. I personally know someone who caught and released a 40+# fish closer to the bay.
It no wonder that "big" fish arn't reported, when all they do is take a bashing. I personally belive this fish is legit!!! And for those of you who don't well.. mabey look into some other conspericies.
This is one body of water where the WDNR is making the right managment decsions!!
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Location: Algonquin, ILL | Gander, How did you get my wife in your boat 
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | you work too much! |
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Location: Holly, MI | That fish looks like it just got done fattening up in the fall for a lean winter, not a spring fish. Why is the fishes head so small? |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Lob, it's bent to the side and down. |
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | I grew up in Green Bay, so I know where that spot is as well. I cannot tell you "who" told me, but I can tell you it is a source "very" close to them.
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| By Photo Shopped do you mean the fish was messed with or just the background changed around??????
Lobi.....that is how some females look in the spring before they drop their eggs. That is why they are fat in the fall also, they have started producing eggs and that adds the girth. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | Having dabbled in photoshop before, I think it would take some very very good skills to get it right..look at the shadow angles etc..I'm betting it was not altered...
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Location: The Yahara Chain | lobi - 4/7/2005 3:45 PM
That fish looks like it just got done fattening up in the fall for a lean winter, not a spring fish. Why is the fishes head so small?
These fish have not spawned yet. They have a lot more eggs in them this time of year than they do in the fall. This is when they are at their heaviest, right before they lay their eggs. These GL spots in Green Bay get very thick. It appears to me they have much better forage to feast on than the GL's in St. Claire.
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Location: The Sportsman, home, or out on the water | My source woud not tell me if the fish was messed with, or the background was. All I can say is that the person who told me this makes money from fishing, and that the lakelink logo is on the side of that person's boat. Sorry, I must protect that person's indentity. |
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| Does anybody know how much this sow weighed?
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| muskynighmare- I don't think the fish or location was altered, but the equipment in the backgroung may have been implemented into the walleye fishing scenario.
Don't see any visible differences in this pic, I know that area very well. A little too well in fact.
Definitely a nice fish.
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| I can believe this fish is real. But what does it matter. It was caught out of season, and by accident. No congrats to the lucky angler should be offered for these very reasons.
Yup, it's a big fish. Yup, the area is real, the fish are there, and there are bigger fish than this in there. Was the pic altered? Who cares? This should be no bigger deal than someone who hits a big buck with their vehicle. It doesn't count!
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Location: Rhinelander, WI | Could someone post the third picture that is out there someplace.
In my unprofessional opinion I don’t think anything with the fish was photoshopped, but it may be possible that the background was messed with. Does it really matter. I have messed with backgrounds to conceal, locations is this a major crime.
It’s a nice fish and more proof that they are in there, if the population keeps increasing, every year more and more are going to be caught by the hordes of walleye guys that fish the river and mouth of the bay this time of year. I know guys who are fishing for 10+ pound walleyes there and are using 4+” stick baits, they are going to tie into a few ski, because the musky don’t know the season is closed.
Nail A Pig!
Mike
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| Here is the 3rd picture. Supposedly that is a 60" tape on the boat.
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| I'm actually a bit surprised that this discussion is even taking place. Fish this size have been spotted and caught for several years now. I caught my first Bay of Green Bay fish in 1994! This was in Door County but there were others caught several years before that! Stop by Bob's Bait and Tackle in Green Bay sometime. Look at the board closely and you'll see several fish in the 30lb class or better posted. There are also numerous
guys who are fishing it regularly and not saying a word......wonder why?
I agree with the Mike's Extreme post however. I had a post a while back talking about the Fox and several of the guys on here made statements as if I was bashing the Fox. I wasn't bashing the Fox, just simply saying the same as Mike's post. It is a different type of fishing and one that not all of us would find enjoyable.
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| I've fished it regularly for the past several years, and probably as successful, or more so, than any. I don't say alot, either. I fine tuned a pattern that works for me, thanks to Jason Smith and Krappie. At first, I wanted to see if this was really as good as it seemed to be. Then, after I proved it was that good, I wanted to try to keep it as low key as I could. Well, that worked for about 2 years. The past 2 years have been pretty busy out there. Not really a problem, until the tailpipers push me off my trolling pass.
As far as the Extreme One's comment. He only says that because the only time I got skunked up there was with him! hehehehe. But it is a different kind of fishing. It does smell bad, the water is filthy, the scenery is urban, and it's getting crowded.
The bay calls me now that I have unlimited time to explore it, and it's treasures. I can't wait to get out and see if I can figure something out. It's a lot of water, but I am a patient person. I'll not give up easily. |
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | Shepsters, I am ready for the bay. I talked to a few of the boys that fish Walleyes over the weedbeds on the bay. Very good info about some great weedbeds. We will have to see what they have to offer us. I got some great tips, now we have to muskie-ize the tips to produce some big spotted fatties.
ps I don't mind the river but it gets old when so many boats are packed into a few select areas. Thats not my kind of quality fishing. Lets go find some clean air, green weeds and clear water in the bay. |
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Location: NeverNever Lake | I agree with Shep, other than the fact it was probably exciting to catch and took some sharp angling skills to land, the fish itself is null and void! |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | let me ask you this, if you caught a 51" 40+lb monster out of season, would you have a replica made? I would, why not? Sure it was caught out of season, but it was still caught and released. I know a few big named anglers who fish Bass out of season and have reps made of pre spawn fish. Is it ethical to target fish out of season, no, but guys do it. This guy was obviously targeting Walleyes, but nailed a piggy by accident.
Sure it doesn't count as far as Musky Inc numbers, Vilas Co Musky Marathon or any other body that takes numbers into account, but I say congrats to him on a a catch of a lifetime. |
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Location: menasha wi 54952 | GMG,
I would think the replica decision would be based on how much value the angler places on a muskie. He may be a walleye guy and a walleye guy only. Just a 51" ski......thats all!!!!
One never knows!!!! Either way its a great fish 
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Location: Menasha, WI | Thats a great question GMG. You should start a poll topic with that....
For me, all my insticts tell me it just wouldn't be right to have a replica made. On the otherhand that fish was such a pig!! I would maybe take a photo of a fish like that and get it enlarged, buy a nice frame, and slap it on the wall |
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Location: north central wisconsin | I don't beleive the background was even altered. If it was, he would have changed the location to somewhere other than one of the best musky spots in the river. My buddy cracked a fish like that in the bay last fall that I was lucky enough to be a part of. They are in there, just gotta dig em up!!! Much easier to catch one right now prespawn than during season actually when 90% of them or more have moved out of the river, and I wish the idiots over there fishing for them right now(not the guy in the picture either), would realize how dumb they look, and that 'we' know they are doing it. Won't call anyone out by name. |
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| Well after this thread is through, green bay will become a tourist hotspot for Big muskie vacations. Well have a regular Lotw around here. Who posts this stuff anyway?
Photoshopped My Jerkbait! |
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Location: Appleton, WI | I just want to say that if people don't think that bigger size limits and lack of pressure don't work than I imagine the Fox wouldn't be kicking out fish like this. This fishery had been relatively unknown until the last couple years. Granted they have planting fish in there for quite a few years(don't have exact numbers for you), but until recently people have been actually targeting them. Walleye guys have always gotten into a few muskies every year
on the Fox. I remember a buddy telling me about 8 years ago that had tied into a brute, and that I should focus my attention on this water. I thought at first that he was just one of the lucky few that tied into a musky, but little did I know that there's a decent fishable population in the river at key times. Kinda kick my self in the arse for not listening to him sooner. Shep and Mike you guys should really explore the bay because if anyone should be able to contact fish it would be you guys. Probably not much different than Pewaukee plus I think Shep knows of a few good spots out there. He's right to assume where he had a fish take a swipe at his board that there's fish to be found there. It's one of the areas out there that hold fish.
Now getting back to size limits. I just thank my lucky stars that the 50" size limit was passed on this water. If the folks up in the northern portion of the state don't wake up and smell the roses. I'm afraid they're really going to have a rude awakening when tourist dollars become diverted in Door County and much of the Great Lakes communities. Musky fisherman in general really don't care about quanity. If that was the case they would fish for other fish species. There's a definite need to have some waters destinated as trophy fisheries, and there can still be waters that are managed for numbers.
There's a legitimate reason to be aware about the strain that's being stocked, but let's not lose sight to the fact that it's also the protection of the fish at a certain age and size. It's not much different with most trophy management for other species. Protect and properly manage mature members of a population and you'll have a good trophy fishery. The genetics has to be there, but if the fish are being removed before they reach maturity than you will never have that trophy fishery. Sorry for going on a tangent, but I wanted to use this thread as an example of how a fishery can really blossom when you have minimal harvest, optimum forage base, strong genetics, and minimum pressure. The writing is on the wall...let's follow through with it for the rest of the state.
catch ya later,
Krappie
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