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Pikopath
Posted 1/23/2009 3:53 PM (#356840 - in reply to #356497)
Subject: Re: My First Attemt at Really Making a Glider




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Location: Norway
BTW all the talk about protecting yourfingers... goggles and earmuffs is also a must, if you ask me. Maybe a helmet
First time I tried one, the bit grabbed the wood, and my fingers followed, went clear of the bit, phew, but the blank shot thru the air at 100mph, and hit the wall right next to some old lead windows, which are over 100 yrs old, and irreplaceable...

Michael
Norway pike
Posted 1/23/2009 5:33 PM (#356857 - in reply to #356497)
Subject: Re: My First Attemt at Really Making a Glider




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"How deep do the nails need to be?" 5-10mm, it will depend on the hardness of the wood. To shallow and the blank may come loose.

"What if you are routering the top and bottom different sizes?" Just stop at one side of the bait and change ruter bit, you may need to sand at the ends.
RJL
Posted 1/23/2009 10:58 PM (#356903 - in reply to #356497)
Subject: RE: My First Attemt at Really Making a Glider


If a router seems scary, (did to me first time) try using a router bit in a drill press (if this is available). This way you can see what the bit is cutting at all times. I make walleye baits as small as 3" in length.

rjlures.com
Pikopath
Posted 1/24/2009 3:26 AM (#356912 - in reply to #356497)
Subject: RE: My First Attemt at Really Making a Glider




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Location: Norway
Another baitholder Ive used. Made with a piece of broomstick, a piece of wood and 2 small nails. See image.

Michael


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mota
Posted 1/24/2009 5:04 AM (#356914 - in reply to #356497)
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enjoy http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=zQLwXu6qTwI
Beaver
Posted 1/24/2009 7:15 AM (#356918 - in reply to #356914)
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Thanks Mota! You da man!
I think I can handle that. He did a good job of keeping his hands well away from the cutter as much as he could.
Is it just me, or does he sound Canadian? I love the way he says, "Rooter"
Beav
Guest
Posted 1/24/2009 8:12 AM (#356921 - in reply to #356918)
Subject: Re: My First Attemt at Really Making a Glider


Beaver - 1/24/2009 7:15 AM
Is it just me, or does he sound Canadian? I love the way he says, "Rooter"
Beav



LOL....I'm going with Minnesota.

Regardless of the accent, it's a great how-to video.

jeremy
Pikopath
Posted 1/24/2009 9:46 AM (#356943 - in reply to #356497)
Subject: Re: My First Attemt at Really Making a Glider




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Location: Norway
I have that DVD where that clip is from. Its canadian, allright. Im 110% sure that he has done that alot more than me and its not as easy as it looks in the beginning. Maybe I should consider to make MONSTERBAITS just to feel safer by that devils machine...

Michael

Brad
Posted 1/24/2009 12:38 PM (#356974 - in reply to #356497)
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I too have his DVD, very, very good. Covers spinnerbaits, bucktails, crank baits (from a block of wood all the way to finished lure) here's his website

http://www.geocities.com/out2llunge/

Brad
RiverMan
Posted 1/24/2009 2:20 PM (#356991 - in reply to #356497)
Subject: Re: My First Attemt at Really Making a Glider




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Location: Oregon
It looks like WRC is being used in the Youtube Demo which is probably the easiet wood out there to router because it is so soft. Keep in mind if you are using hard maple that the wood will want to jump alot more so go slow when you first put the bit to the wood.

RM
mainguin
Posted 1/25/2009 10:00 AM (#357088 - in reply to #356497)
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Beaver,
Another alternative to the jig would be to use the handheld router (cheaper than a table router) and lock it in place point up in a vise. I know it SOUNDS like a redneck accident waiting to happen (Hey y'all, watch this!), but I've never had any problems or accidents. In fact I still have all seven fingers....
Once it is locked in place, you can router very much like they showed in the video by manipulating the blank rather than the router. I got a fairly inexpensive router at Menards (Tool Shop brand) and it has worked great for four years. They also market round over bits in a four pack assortment ranging from 1/4" to 3/4". The bits do eventually burn out, but at $13.00 a four pack it's manageable.
If you still don't feel comfortable routering, let me know and I could do some blanks for you.
Beaver
Posted 3/7/2009 10:54 PM (#364858 - in reply to #357088)
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Well, it got warm enough on Wednesday for me to spend some time in the garage cutting and sanding and other lure related stuff. My hand feels great when I'm not doing anything, but when I attempt to do any grabbing, pushing, pulling etc., it feels like I just had surgery a week ago, so I have to slow down. I'm getting the other hand done on Wednesday the 11th, so it will still be a while before I'm fully active. You may have noticed that last week I sold a bunch of lures. Well that was for a reason. Today I purchased a Craftsman 2hp router and table combo and 6 roundover bits, so when I'm ready, the shavings and the dust will be flying. Also ordered about 100 - 1/8" thick Lexan lips in various shapes and sizes so I can use some of the thinner left-overs to try my hand at building crankbaits. Maybe the timing is good for once. I should be fully healed just in time for the first permanent warm-up to show up.
Nobody said that it was going to be easy I'm actually looking forward to being busy. This winter has been hell on me. I'm ready to go and do something.....like take a nap.
Stay tuned for updates and pictures of exotic wood blanks, without much paint on them.
Beav
Muskerboy
Posted 3/8/2009 1:28 PM (#364915 - in reply to #356497)
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Wow sounds like you'll have your work cut out. Keep us posted on how the routering goes.
Yake Bait
Posted 3/8/2009 11:17 PM (#365031 - in reply to #356497)
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While I don't claim this to be safe, I have my router mounted upside down in my bench vice and a piece of plexiglass mounted to the router base to form a poor man's table.

After routing, I find an orbital palm sander hard to beat. A belt is too harsh and tends to flatten out the contours. A narrow 1" belt with no backing plate would be about the only thing that I think could be used to smoothe over the lure.
Beaver
Posted 3/8/2009 11:49 PM (#365035 - in reply to #365031)
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I have a very nice paln sander with all fine sandpaper to take out any seams or wrinkles. I'm looking forward to doing something new.
Beav
out2llunge
Posted 3/10/2009 1:33 PM (#365365 - in reply to #356497)
Subject: Re: My First Attemt at Really Making a Glider




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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario
That's me in the video. I produced it several years ago and used to have it for sale here.

If you're going to router (not rooter) hard maple I would suggest minimizing the cutter height and doing several cuts each at increasing cutting depths. It's important to have respect for any tool and a little fear will help keep you alert. You need to be extra cautious when cutting many blanks of the same shape. The repetitiveness makes your alertness wane and leaves you more prone to accidents.
out2llunge
Posted 3/10/2009 1:35 PM (#365366 - in reply to #356497)
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Location: Kawarthas, Ontario
100% Canadian!
Beaver
Posted 3/10/2009 10:16 PM (#365476 - in reply to #365366)
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I'm going to start with the cedar that I have cut first, then some California Redwood to get the feel for it. Good advise using several cuts instead of one with hard wood. I'm just doing this for the love of it, so I don't have any quotas to meet or customers to satisfy, so I can work slowly. I tend to get a little anxious with new projects, but I know from running lots of heavy equipment as well as a myriad of different power tools, that bad things can happen if you are not focussed. I plan on practicing on all sorts of scraps before I ever touch a lure blank.
Thanks for your input. I learned much just by watching that clip.
Beav
Alex P
Posted 3/11/2009 4:47 PM (#365616 - in reply to #356497)
Subject: RE: My First Attemt at Really Making a Glider


out2llunge - glad to see you finding a little time to post!
Alex
Beaver
Posted 3/19/2009 7:47 PM (#367142 - in reply to #365616)
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Well, I got the stitches out of my left hand today and am happy to report that all went well and I can feel all of my fingers.
When I can home I assembled my router table and ran a bunch of scrap wood and a few cedar blanks through it and I love it. I'm going to have to rig up some different suction hoses on my shop vacs to make hook-up easier, but I always have the option of going out and securing it to my picnic table and let the wind do the work for me.
Like I said before, I have a greater appreciation for the guys who made the blanks that I weighted and painted, because there is a lot more work to it than meets the eye. I'll always have something to do that is lure-related all year long now, and isn't that what a hobby is supposed to be?
Now I have a supply of blanks from 6-10", gliders and crankbaits both. With all of the different styles and woods, I'll be spending a good deal of time at the launch ramp just south of Milwaukee, checking out my work and letting the dogs swim. Now I need spring. We had one day that was almost 70, now I need a whole month of warm weather to get some lures made....unless I take a few weeks to head out to The Mississippi walleye and bass fishing. I'm glad it's not a race. If I ever get a lure made, I'll make sure to show you guys.
Beav
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