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| DaveS53 - 2/25/2026 10:36 AM
This will probably generate a whole lot of flack but I'll say it anyway. Between the early European immigrants and what came to be Americans, the native Americans have been cheated and killed, had their land stolen, their game animals massacred and treated as bad or worse than the slaves were. So with what little land and native rights they have left I am inclined to give them a pass. And as someone else pointed out, even with catch and release the shear numbers of todays musky sport fisherman as a whole are probably responsible for a lot of delayed mortality. So if we really want to be so protective of the resource, along with a catch to keep limit there should be a daily catch and release limit.
This is satire, right? For a minute, I thought this guy was serious. |
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Location: Vilas | The best way to motivate someone is to tell them they cant do it. All this whining and crying is just adding fuel to their fire. Theres nothing youre going to do about it, stop following their Facebook pages. Bite your tongue, stop your comments and quit posting about it....... |
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| Sorry but I just need to let people know what is going on. I know we have about a .01% chance of changing anything but the more people see what is going on the better.
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Location: Duluth, MN | My thought would be why do this when it only depletes a very limited resource and then you won't be able to do it when they are all gone? I assume they can only do this on certain lakes right? It takes 10 years to replace 1 muskie. It takes 2-3 years to replace thousands of walleyes. Go for it...spear all you want but just seems like you're just hurting your own lakes. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | It's the law of the land. Yell at your favorite senator. |
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| The one thing anyone can do is boycott the casino. If you drive past on a summer evening there will be multiple fishing boats parked in the lot. There are other casinos, where the tribe does not spear, go there if you want to gamble. And, let them know you have taken your business elsewhere and why. Talk to friends, explain why you are no longer supporting that particular enterprise and ask them to talk to their friends. It's the American way. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | On the reservation the bands have absolute sovereignty, years ago we were fishing and staying on a reservation in Arizona and we pulled off the dirt road to walk in a fish. The tribal police come by and said you can't park there and we are going to tow your truck. We protested then you of the officers goes and digs a no parking sign out of the sage brush. Then we paid 50 dollar cash fine on the spot not to be towed. The truck was borrowed from our friends work and he would deep trouble if he didn't have that truck back to work the next working day. He was a soft drink executive but would have still been in trouble. |
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| I am not a gambler to begin with, but boycotting the casino does nothing. Today, revenue generated from the Casinos provides tribal members with money to live in today's society. Which could be used as evidence that the treaty rights of the past are expired. Less money from the Casinos would drive more of a need to live off the land. With every generation, natives are living less and less of this sustenance lifestyle. It's ridiculous these treaty rights go back nearly 200 years. Obviously, times have changed. Even the Voigt decision was made greater than 40 years ago. In my opinion, it may be time to revisit it, but who could possibly take this on? Seems like an impossible task.
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| MartinTD - 3/27/2026 12:01 PM
I am not a gambler to begin with, but boycotting the casino does nothing. Today, revenue generated from the Casinos provides tribal members with money to live in today's society. Which could be used as evidence that the treaty rights of the past are expired. Less money from the Casinos would drive more of a need to live off the land. With every generation, natives are living less and less of this sustenance lifestyle. It's ridiculous these treaty rights go back nearly 200 years. Obviously, times have changed. Even the Voigt decision was made greater than 40 years ago. In my opinion, it may be time to revisit it, but who could possibly take this on? Seems like an impossible task.
I don't know of anyone who would not pay attention if they saw a reduction in their income. I understand your point but I think losing business would be cause for revaluation of what is being done. At one time the state has a better relationship with the tribe, even got a lot of walleye from tribal hatchery. I don't know what caused the relationship to weaken to where it is now. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | I am half Danish and my dads family is from Racine WI. and the farm areas to the west of town, they were farmers or worked at the kraut factory or in town at places like Case or Massy Ferguson. When they were not working they would go up north and fish. My moms side of the family is from Deer River MN. and other towns in the area. I am Germain, French Canadian, and bunch of other things including Ojibway. My grandma got us all registered at the end of 1960. In 1961 they changed who got what and what percentage you had to be get the benefits. For example my grandma got all us cousins registered and we are only 1/16th my youngest cousin was born in 1961 gets nothing. My moms family were all fishing guides, lumberjacks, my grandpa had a bar and gas station. One night someone from town took a stranger to my Grandpa's home because he needed help with his car. After the person dropped him off and left the person pulled a gun and took my grandpa for a ride and robbed him then took his car and dumped him off. He thought he was a dead man. We had family members who worked for the tribe and even the Mayor of Deer River. Lots were poor and left for other cities to find work. A lot of my grandma brothers fought in WWII but came back the Jackpine after the war. How this effects me? As a kid we got a cash payout of 96 dollars each. Wow what a windfall for a kid. I was going to get a mini bike (a gas powered off road thing) aw hope! I got a new bed. In 1986 when they reaffirmed treaty rights I was screaming bloody murder like everyone else. I found out later I can do all that with a valid tribal I D. My ID expired on my birthday 2008. When in Minnesota I'm not going to go the Bemidji and giving up day of fishing. I always wanted to live in the woods but my family discouraged it. It is very hard to live in the woods and make a living. How a days we get anywhere from 250- 1000 bucks a year from the tribe.
In 2014 I fell at work and hit my head and am living on disability so every bit helps. I'm allowed to drive and I can cast backlash free so I'm greatful. One side of my family lives in the north and one fishes there. |
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