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| You are making apples to oranges comparisons there. You will allow SI/DI and allow FFS for other fish but not musky. Sorry, without any study, comprehensive data, that is an arbitrary decision. If you were to ban all electronics, SI/DI included, no problem. |
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| I think the apples and oranges are the difference between U.S. and Canada. With the wording of that Federal Canadian fisheries act, it seems to give very broad powers at the Federal level. I think NO8 is correct for the U.S., as pretty much all non-migratory laws are at the state level, which is a huge difference. Plus, even on the state level, I don't think there is any legislation that mirrors the broad powers of that Canadian Act. Basically, Canada has legislation that specifically says they do not require scientific proof or data. We don't have anything close to that, that I am aware of. |
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| TCESOX - 9/3/2024 5:28 PM
I think the apples and oranges are the difference between U.S. and Canada. With the wording of that Federal Canadian fisheries act, it seems to give very broad powers at the Federal level. I think NO8 is correct for the U.S., as pretty much all non-migratory laws are at the state level, which is a huge difference. Plus, even on the state level, I don't think there is any legislation that mirrors the broad powers of that Canadian Act. Basically, Canada has legislation that specifically says they do not require scientific proof or data. We don't have anything close to that, that I am aware of.
In the U.S. there can be emergency regulations but anything long term requires data, and at the state level public input is often required. |
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| Heard it said on this podcast, https://backlashpodcast.podbean.com/ that Chase Gibson took live scope off his boat. Glad to hear it. Some consider him as one of the pioneers for FFS and maybe now he is rejecting this technology. |
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| Article on FFS
https://www.startribune.com/anderson-is-it-muskie-fishing-or-muskie-... |
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| Live scope is the equivalent of painting by numbers
Number 19-put your red paint here
No 20-put your green paint here
No 21-put your black paint here
Live scope- put your cast over there>
Do we consider it great skill or artistry,, Muskies are a masterpiece and should be done with skill. |
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| Minnesota DNR on live scope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTNylcNULPE
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Location: Brighton CO. | Wow, thanks for sharing Muddy. |
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The news team there did as good a job as the could considering how abstract the concept is to explain to an uninformed audience - the bit with the reporter on the ice was effective as well as very concise point by the biologist or manager with regards to musky density/mortality.
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| Angling Oracle - 1/8/2025 10:15 AM
The news team there did as good a job as the could considering how abstract the concept is to explain to an uninformed audience - the bit with the reporter on the ice was effective as well as very concise point by the biologist or manager with regards to musky density/mortality.
Agree. The reporter standing on the ice and showing just how far the FFS can pinpoint fish is a simple but very effective way of demonstrating how it works. |
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Location: MN | The only problem is what she stated isn't quite true. The range of FFS was overstated and the range of traditional sonar was understated. There is also the implicit assumption that if the fish are present you will see them, which is not necessarily true if they are near the bottom or in cover. Still a reasonable way to demonstrate the difference between the two I guess.
It's more than a little comical that their example complaining angler is fishing out of a fancy wheel house and watching his jig on a big screen with an underwater camera. Just another example of the "right" amount of technology is exactly how much I am using, and that cost prohibitiveness is more of an excuse than an issue. They hit a lot of tropes there; only thing missing was a guide whining about his competitive advantage shrinking.
DNR guy was on point. Will be interesting to see what comes of that. |
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| I think the reporter mis-spoke about 2D sonar when she said 6 ft. down. I think it was supposed to be 6 ft. wide. That would make more sense. |
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