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Location: Duluth | Literally some of the best days of my life were spent on Lake Vermilion in a beat to heck 16ft superhawk with a terribly running merc 50. Didn't stop us from putting fish in the boat, didn't have a pot to pee in. Fishing what structure you can, when you can is also a great teacher...found a lot of spots because the wind and waves kept us contained to certain areas. |
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| I guess if your baby food was served in a silver spoon, a $5000 tin boat is "trash." I know a number of kids who saved their night crawler and de-tasseling money and were proud as heck, of their "trash boat." And they were tickled to catch a 42" fish. If you think catching a 36 inch pike is the same as catching a 36 inch muskie, you just don't get it. You fish for muskies because they are hard to catch and you don't catch a lot of them. Muskie fishing isn't dying, it's growing. Young people are taking it up all the time. Money is not a barrier. It's the engagement on older communication platforms that are down. More spread out to various other places. What some people don't get, is that muskie fishing isn't how you start fishing, unless you are born into a muskie fishing family. You graduate to muskie fishing. You get tired of the ease of bass fishing. You get to the point that you can catch walleye on pretty much any body of water that has them, even when others are struggling. You need a new challenge. You either pick up muskie fishing or fly fishing, or both. You catch that first fish, and you knees wobble, and that's it. Your hooked. I wouldn't want muskie fishing to be any easier. What would be the point? Once you've caught enough 4 footers, you don't really care what size they are anymore. It's the chase. A 40" fish on a small low density lake is just as big of a deal as a 50' fish on Green Bay. Takes the same or more skill. It's just not for everyone. I've had friends who really like to fish, and I've taken them many times in my nice boat, with nice gear, and put them on fish. They still didn't get into it. They don't like how much work it is and how you don't catch a bunch of them in a day. And, as others have said, if you want information, use the search. Top notch sticks have answered pretty much every question you can think of, on this site.
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| Again, the minimum recommended gear to target this species is going to run $600. Saying money is not a barrier is ignoring the reality of current affairs for youth in America. |
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| Tyendinaga - 7/16/2026 7:20 PM
Again, the minimum recommended gear to target this species is going to run $600. Saying money is not a barrier is ignoring the reality of current affairs for youth in America.
Recommended by who? I would never recommend a beginner spend that kind of money just to get started. You wait until you are addicted before you do that.
Why is the reality of the current affairs for youth in America any different than in the past? Unemployment rate is lower than in the past. Interest rates aren't anywhere near as high as they have been in the past. I don't see any lines to gas at the gas station. Inflation isn't as bad as it has been in the past. Nobody is worried about being drafted into the military. Seems to me there are some pretty unrealistic expectations as to how good things should be, by the youth in America. |
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| What do the younger generation all do? They snap photo's on their phones and post the pictures. You don't find many pictures here because the holier than tho crowd rips the poster to shreds. That fish is smaller than you claim, you aren't handling it correctly, what release tools do you have, why are you holding the fish like that blah, blah, blah. Muskie fisherman are as welcoming as a NBA team at a klan rally. The last place I would post a photo is here, and I'm an old guy who doesn't care what anybody thinks. Go back 5-10 years and look for yourselves. |
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| TCESOX - 7/16/2026 7:46 PM
Tyendinaga - 7/16/2026 7:20 PM
Again, the minimum recommended gear to target this species is going to run $600. Saying money is not a barrier is ignoring the reality of current affairs for youth in America.
Recommended by who? I would never recommend a beginner spend that kind of money just to get started. You wait until you are addicted before you do that.
Why is the reality of the current affairs for youth in America any different than in the past? Unemployment rate is lower than in the past. Interest rates aren't anywhere near as high as they have been in the past. I don't see any lines to gas at the gas station. Inflation isn't as bad as it has been in the past. Nobody is worried about being drafted into the military. Seems to me there are some pretty unrealistic expectations as to how good things should be, by the youth in America.
I am getting weary of young adults talking about how easy the Boomers had it. Yeah, we went to high schools designed for half the number of students. The college I entered in 1969 had twice the students it had in 1964. And when you did get a degree, the employer got a hundred apps from other recent grads. Yes houses were cheaper but interest rates were double and in some cases triple what they are now. My first year in banking, 1981, fixed rate 30 year was 16.5%. So yes, houses were cheaper because virtually no one could afford a mortgage. |
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Location: Athens, Ohio | 1984, we signed on to a 13.5% 3-year adjustable 25 yr. mortgage. The kind loan officer explained that likely we would be paying $100,000 more in interest than what we borrowed. Dang if we didn't pull it off, tho! m |
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Location: WI | Went on my old employers website to see what a starting wage for the role I had back in 2006 when I graduated from college. It was $21 when I started. It’s $40 now. There are great income opportunities for young adults today. Wages haven’t been flat. It feels ominous starting out to every generation. You are just being told how bad you have it more than previous generations. You’ll be fine. |
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| I am not bashing today's youth. I have met some amazing young people, and seen many features extolling the talents and drive of younger folks. If they are the ones that end up running things, we are in good hands. It's just that there also, is little perspective for many of them. When I graduated college, the unemployment rate was almost double what it is today. And yes, the house I bought almost 35 years ago, was a little less than $100,000. The job I had at that time paid a little less than $35,000. If I were to sell that house today, I would get about $300,000. That same job I had at that time, would have a starting pay of over $85,000 today. When my great uncle went to the same college I did, it cost about the same as a new Buick. 25 years later, when my mom went to that same college, it cost about the same as a new Buick. 25 years later when I went to that college, it cost about the same as a new Buick. And today, that school charges about the same as the cost of a new Buick. The more things change, the more they stay the same. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | First thing, Steve runs a tight ship! It's a great place to talk and have fun, but bad mouth other users or drag too much politics you'll be blackballed or disabled in a heartbeat. (that's a good thing) Question is why do we long in? For me the time on the water is short, so it's looking forward to the next trip or thinking fondly of the last. |
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