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Message Subject: "creeper" style lures

Posted 2/19/2003 9:18 PM (#60706)
Subject: "creeper" style lures


I want to get a creeper style topwater lure. Hi-Fin has a one piece as well as a jointed. Slammer has a Creepin Tom. Is one better than the other? Can both be used in small chop as well as calm? A jointed model is what I'll order, black with a green, or orange tail. Which do you pro's use? Thanks, B.
Steve Van Lieshout
Posted 2/19/2003 9:31 PM (#60710 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 1916


Location: Greenfield, WI
The Slammer Topwater baits are made by Scott Persons 218-647-8227. His creepers are made with very substantial wings which don't appear to be disruppted by hooked fish. I highly recommend them. I use these and Hog Wobblers when it is calm or very close to it.

Posted 2/19/2003 10:27 PM (#60718 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures


The picts in R & H catalog of the Creepin Tom's, give you the impression of a thru wire construction lure. Is this so??? Thanks, B.
Eggy
Posted 2/19/2003 10:29 PM (#60719 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 51


Location: Sheboygan Falls, WI
Yes, they have thru wire construction.
Tom Dietz
Posted 2/19/2003 10:35 PM (#60720 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures





Posts: 89


Location: Breezy Point, MN
My number one fish producing creeper is made by Hi-Fin called the Hawg Buster. The best ones by far were the original wood models, not the poly wood model that is produced today. The good news is that they just came out with a limited run of these again in wood, and I ordered one off their web site and received it at the Milwaukee Musky Show. These are deadly "throw back" lures to followers and superb after dark on a warm, muggy calm summer night over a weed flat. My best color has been black. Good luck!

Tom Dietz
www.tomdietz.com
Witchdoctor
Posted 2/19/2003 11:23 PM (#60723 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 62


Tom,

Does the Hi-Fin give that great LeLure type sound? I am also interested in a Creeper style and have had no so great results with some other manufacturers on the market. Is the Hi-Fin the best you have used so far?

Thanks for your input,

Chris Drury
Sponge
Posted 2/20/2003 5:56 AM (#60733 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




I got the Hawg Buster jointed creeper also; the sound is great, and although I haven't caught a musky on it yet, it has produced my largest large/smallmouthed basses, as well as numerous other large basses. The Hawg Wobbler I have found will also take rockfish at night, in both the 4" & 6" models. the Hi Fin I got is the polywood, and it can be retrieved at a somewhat fast speed as well as a slow crawl...
guideman
Posted 2/20/2003 1:00 PM (#60792 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 376


Location: Lake Vermilion Tower, MN
I have used both the HiFin and the slam'er and in my opinion, the one from slam'er is a better bait.

As for colors, anything as long as it's Black! I use both the jointed and the standard baits. Jointed is a better choice for fast water, or in a chop, but both models work in the right conditions.
Luke_Chinewalker
Posted 2/20/2003 2:41 PM (#60805 - in reply to #60792)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures





Location: Minneapolis, MN
I'm an idiot. I let the Witchdoctor throw my wife's favorite custom color original LeLure Creeper last year and it got destroyed in only 2 nights. There goes an appreciating asset down the toilet. I wish someone would make one identical to those original LeLures.
Topwater
Posted 2/20/2003 4:23 PM (#60813 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 60


Location: Germantown,wi
Guys if you are interested, I make surface baits that are identical to Frenchy's Lelure. Need any more info, shoot me an email.
Gary
Witchdoctor
Posted 2/20/2003 4:27 PM (#60814 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 62


Luke,

Why must you set yourself up like this. Let me set the record straight. I did not destroy the bait. In fact a 43" found it very appetizing. Then your wife stuck a 39"er on that same Creeper the very next night in almost the same exact spot. I forgot what happened when you threw it next. Oh yeah, you blew two fish mutiple times there James Brown!

So I did not destroy that Creeper. It worked very well for Buffy and I and that night when you were firing the Creeper still ranks as the funniest night on the water to date.

Chris Drury
Phishhead
Posted 2/20/2003 6:19 PM (#60825 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 100


Location: Hayward, WI
Creepers are probably my favorite bait to use on clear water lakes in the last hour of daylight to dark. There is no doubt the original wood Hi-Fin creepers work much better than the new polywood ones. The wood baits tend to ride a little lower in the water after getting wet and make a much more pronounced and attractive noise in my opinion. LeLures work great as well.

Black is by far my most productive color. I even paint the wings completely black as well. Ask my friend Dusty, he caught a 47" pig on a creeper and hour after he had spray painted it all black.


I recently bought a used Joel Wick creeper ... anyone have any experience with these?

Mike

Posted 2/20/2003 6:36 PM (#60830 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures


Scott Persons makes some nice stuff.
That Cyclone can come in handy also in a little more chop than a Creeper will take.
Tried that Top Dawg late last year and they really get chewed!
Sweet stuff.



T.


www.muskytomsguideservice.com
Reef Hawg
Posted 2/20/2003 7:54 PM (#60845 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
I love creepers as well(just check my basement some time). the best creeper ever built in my opinion is one my friend makes(Ry Lur), Ryan Jinkerson. It closely resembles Frenchies old ploppers but has a better mettallic chang when the wings move. I prefer the fetch and catch style(longer than a hawg buster and tubular in design) with spreader hooks. The original fetch and catch without spreaders is actually a very poor hooking lure, as the fish will often open their mouths too close to the bait and flip it over when their snout hits the wings. i choose the hawg buster when I want a slightly smaller one without spreaders. The old hawg busters and creepers from hi finn are my favorites as they were made from wood and had a nicer tone in my opinion.

Ryan is going to start making baits again this year, and I cannot wait!!!
Cast-n-Blast
Posted 2/20/2003 9:01 PM (#60857 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures





Posts: 155


Location: North Metro
SLAMER' Topwater makes the best creeper on the market today in my humble opinion. All thru-wire construction and will take the abuse of many fish and keep on creepin' A fun lure to use for sure!!!!!!!!
divani
Posted 2/21/2003 4:31 AM (#60879 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures





Posts: 2061


Location: Belgium
has anybody used the bauer mike's creeper?
Reef Hawg
Posted 2/21/2003 9:57 AM (#60916 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
Divani, I have but i had tyrouble with mine. I had to bend the wings out quite a bit before I could get a plop out of it. i have a few friends who noticed the same thing. They seem very sensitive to adjustment.
divani
Posted 2/21/2003 2:21 PM (#60960 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures





Posts: 2061


Location: Belgium
it seems mine doesn't plop as well as a hi-fin creeper that I tried this summer. The wings hardly go out of the water
Reef Hawg
Posted 2/21/2003 11:28 PM (#61011 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
divani, try bending them out a bit(almost straight away from the body). Also make sure they are cupped enough.
divani
Posted 2/22/2003 2:56 AM (#61021 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures





Posts: 2061


Location: Belgium
I will try it. Thanks for the tip! Won't he point where the blade is attached to the stainless steel frame crack?
Reef Hawg
Posted 2/22/2003 10:13 AM (#61040 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
no, hold the frame, and bend firmly and slowly. Should work.
divani
Posted 2/22/2003 11:36 AM (#61042 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures





Posts: 2061


Location: Belgium
I noticed I could unscrew the screw-eye that holds the aluminum frame a bit and now they hang about 180° opposite to eachother. Will try it asap and I'll let you know. Thanks for the tips!
divani
Posted 2/23/2003 2:16 PM (#61150 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures





Posts: 2061


Location: Belgium
reef hawg, it works great now! The wings really move out of the water and I get a loud plop plop plop plop ... from the lure. Before it moved more like a jitterbug. Thanks for the tip.
Reef Hawg
Posted 2/23/2003 4:48 PM (#61160 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
no problem, now crack some fish on it dude!!!!
Steve Van Lieshout
Posted 2/23/2003 9:00 PM (#61203 - in reply to #60706)
Subject: RE: "creeper" style lures




Posts: 1916


Location: Greenfield, WI
Scott Person's e-mail address is: [email protected], if any of you may have more creeper questions.
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