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Message Subject: (Dirty) Trick to follow Baitfish Pods in Open Water
Top H2O
Posted 2/25/2009 5:17 PM (#362725 - in reply to #362646)
Subject: Re: (Dirty) Trick to follow Baitfish Pods in Open Water




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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Mmmmmmmm...... Possum... I likes my possum medium rare... And my crow well done.
It seems like a lot of people have been eating Crow on this site this winter, lol

Just having some fun guys. Fishing the Cave next week should cure me of D.W. S.

Dysfunctional Winternet Syndrome

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Don Pfeiffer
Posted 2/25/2009 10:31 PM (#362813 - in reply to #362438)
Subject: RE: (Dirty) Trick to follow Baitfish Pods in Open Water




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Location: Rhinelander.
I have heard that befor and actually talked about it on the air several years back. Old timers on lake winnebago do it to follow schools of walleys and jumbo perch. I have actually heard of tournament anglers marking schools of walleys like this the day or two befor a tournament. Day of tournament they go out early find the ballon and know where they will start fishing. Tricky or smart? I think both. Now ethical or not befor a tournament is a better question.
Muskiecut
Posted 2/25/2009 11:31 PM (#362823 - in reply to #362438)
Subject: Re: (Dirty) Trick to follow Baitfish Pods in Open Water




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Location: Irvine, KY
In Kentucky you dont need to have the jug attatched to the boat... jug fishing is legal on any lake with at least 500 surface acres. Each boat is limited to 50 jugs and each jug must have the name, adress and phone number of the user and they have to be checked and rebaited once every 24 hours and removed when you leave the lake.

This would make the ballon idea illegal for the tournament agler in KY for 2 reasons (1)youre leaving the lake, (2) your using a gamefish for bait which is illegal in KY.... unless there's no hook present ... then Its just unethical or a violation of tournament rules IMO to do it the day before a tournament and return to hunt up the ballon/ jug. I dont see a problem with finding the fish DURRING the tournament and using a jug/ballon to keep track of the school, though the fish might have to be of legal size and count towards your limit since its kinda in your possesion... sort of a gray area there lol.

TN has a similar regulation... when I was younger we would set our jugs out in the morning in the mouths of bays and creeks for catfish and then troll all day for white bass and hybrid striped bass, then hunt our jugs up and go home. By far the most productive method for catfish.... one week on old hickory lake in TN would give us enough fish to last us 2 years. I still do this for catfish (on a smaller scale) on occasions when we decide to have a fish fry.
muskyhunter24
Posted 2/27/2009 8:40 AM (#363055 - in reply to #362556)
Subject: Re: (Dirty) Trick to follow Baitfish Pods in Open Water





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Location: Madison WI
tyler k - 2/24/2009 9:24 PM

Actually last I checked it is legal to use panfish as bait in WI as long as they are on the same water as caught. The regs say you can't use gamefish, which crappies, perch, bluegills, etc. are not. I would bet this particular practice is illegal, the DNR might construe it as jug fishing (even though it obviously is not meant to be). As far as ethics go, I fail to see how this is radically unethical as opposed to jamming a quick-set rig into a sucker's side and tossing it in. Does catching a fish with it (hopefully) somehow make it more ethical than doing basically the same thing to put yourself in position to catch more fish?


We are allowed to use gamefish as bait also in WI, assuming its of legal size, included in your bag limit and it is used on the same body of water that you caught it on. This was recently changed in wisconsin i believe 2-3 yrs ago.
Ranger
Posted 2/27/2009 2:16 PM (#363122 - in reply to #362438)
Subject: Re: (Dirty) Trick to follow Baitfish Pods in Open Water





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Thanks for all the interesting responses. I'm not at all suprised to find it is an old school trick. I never thought of the relationship to jug fishing because in the context of my initial post the ballooned panfish was not bait, it was a tool used to track movements of a school of the fish targeted by the angler. Not a trick I would try, myself.


Edited by Ranger 2/27/2009 2:17 PM
woodieb8
Posted 2/27/2009 6:07 PM (#363165 - in reply to #362438)
Subject: Re: (Dirty) Trick to follow Baitfish Pods in Open Water




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still laughing. in reality they jug for turtles here in southern ontario. but i aint eaten possum., nuclear rats
Guest
Posted 2/22/2010 11:10 PM (#425274 - in reply to #362438)
Subject: RE: (Dirty) Trick to follow Baitfish Pods in Open Water


The "trick" is older than dirt. It was old when I was a little kid. I read about it and tried it. I found that the fish gets tired and looses the school if they move very fast if you use a fist sized balloon or something wiith much drag. a thin straight bobber or pencil shaped balloon is best. Never had one eaten, but it sure could happen.
L
Don Pfeiffer
Posted 2/22/2010 11:19 PM (#425275 - in reply to #362438)
Subject: RE: (Dirty) Trick to follow Baitfish Pods in Open Water




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Location: Rhinelander.
Thats trick has been used on lake winnebago for 40 years allready that I know of. It was used befor locators were around. It was even a topic onece on my radio show. Many old timers called in and said they did it.

Pfeiff
esoxaddict
Posted 2/23/2010 12:13 AM (#425280 - in reply to #362438)
Subject: RE: (Dirty) Trick to follow Baitfish Pods in Open Water





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I think it's pretty clever, and funny! Will brings up a good point -- it could be construed as jug fishing, but that's actually legal in some areas as far as I know. I find it REALLY amusing that people will use all sorts of electronics, underwater cameras, etc. and have no trouble with it, but when you use a primitive method for locating fish, people have a problem with it...

Those same people probably have no problem with the brush pile they put at the end of their pier, though.

Would I do it? I'd make sure it was legal first, because I don't need the aggravation. But I'd do it! Not so much to follow the school, but just out of curiousity to see if it works or not.

Besides -- Crappies taste good!
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