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Message Subject: Spinnerbaits
Manta18
Posted 10/7/2024 2:37 PM (#1031116)
Subject: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 357


Location: Long Prairie, Minnesota
Just wondering if anyone still uses spinnerbaits during the time of the year. I have a bunch of Ace spinnerbaits and love them in the summer, but have never tried them for late season, has anyone else?
sworrall
Posted 10/7/2024 4:46 PM (#1031118 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits





Posts: 32885


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Yes.
dickP
Posted 10/7/2024 6:10 PM (#1031119 - in reply to #1031118)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 321


Year around bait,under used year around bait. It’s just a question of speed and depth.

Edited by dickP 10/7/2024 6:12 PM
chuckski
Posted 10/7/2024 7:39 PM (#1031120 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 1383


Location: Brighton CO.
Yes, when the water cools use a single blade and drop it down deep and hug the bottom.
jdsplasher
Posted 10/8/2024 6:28 AM (#1031122 - in reply to #1031120)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits





Posts: 2268


Location: SE, WI.
Yes; have different weighted heads, different designed heads that run deep and shallow for ease of running through cover, different blade combinations that allow deep and shallow presentations + different Sonics, and different hooking set ups, trebles, and single for year round applications! 
JD


Edited by jdsplasher 10/8/2024 6:34 AM
Masqui-ninja
Posted 10/8/2024 6:45 AM (#1031123 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits





Posts: 1246


Location: Walker, MN
Slow rolling a spinnerbait with some lifts and drops is a great way to get crushed in the fall. I have to mention...I wish the hook-ups were better.
jdsplasher
Posted 10/8/2024 10:18 AM (#1031125 - in reply to #1031123)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits





Posts: 2268


Location: SE, WI.

Masqui-ninja - 10/8/2024 6:45 AM Slow rolling a spinnerbait with some lifts and drops is a great way to get crushed in the fall. I have to mention...I wish the hook-ups were better.

 U are Correct Masqui; Lift drops are very effective Now in Fall. Your hook ups are poor because of the blade wire deflects off mouth after fish inhaled the bait. Very easy for fish to inhale  the whole lure on a slack line drop. That blade arm  is designed to keep hooks out of weeds, wood...ect. Thats what is occuring after your hook set.

 That is what makes Creature spins shine in the fall. No Wire detouring hook up on a jig. Just great hook-ups. Creature spins saved many a trips for us both in Northern Wi. and Canada. 

 

 




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chuckski
Posted 10/8/2024 10:55 AM (#1031128 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 1383


Location: Brighton CO.
On my Bass sized lures I've cut the arm down to look more like the DickP Grinders. I hear a lot of talk of bad hook ups may be I've lucky but I've ruined a lot of old M&G's where I had to cut hooks to let my fish go. Like above I have all kinds of blades and jig weights and both single and double bladed lures. One thing I do is put a swivel clasp to change blades and on my singles I use a ball bearing for ease of spin and on my doubles I use a old style brass type for more thump. I use M&G's, Marv's, Rad Dawg's, and Northland spinnerbaits with Bucktail, silicon, Marabou, feathers, flashabou and some even with a giant twistetrail.
chuckski
Posted 10/8/2024 11:01 AM (#1031129 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 1383


Location: Brighton CO.
Marabou and giant twistertails = Shumway's.
pstrombe
Posted 10/8/2024 12:03 PM (#1031131 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits





Posts: 203


Big Tooth short arm spinner baits are excellent if you can find them. I have four that have been refurbished multiple times over the past 5 years.
phselect
Posted 10/9/2024 6:19 AM (#1031134 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 166


Location: Alexandria, MN
Hard to beat a Rad Dog from Ruff Tackle. Love the fluted Indiana blades for casting and the big Colorado blades for trolling.

Edited by phselect 10/9/2024 6:21 AM
gimruis
Posted 10/9/2024 8:45 AM (#1031137 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 158


Spinnerbaits tend to cut through vetegation more easily than an line spinner does with treble hooks. That's the advantage of them for me. The disadvantage is the single hook. Much lower hook up percentage and quite often if they jump or shake their head they will spit it.
North of 8
Posted 10/9/2024 1:42 PM (#1031138 - in reply to #1031137)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




I too have trouble keeping muskie pinned with spinners. What I don't get is why when a pike hits, I normally don't have them get off. Last fall I hooked 3 pike in the 30" range in about 45 minutes and all were solidly hooked.
Slopski
Posted 10/10/2024 6:55 AM (#1031146 - in reply to #1031138)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 166


Location: Cedarburg, WI.
I love spinnerbaits! I second Pstrombe on the big tooth short arm spinnerbaits. Sad they don't make those anymore.

I find with hookups it's more dependent on the cover. For example when fishing thru reeds i rarely lose a fish they seem to always take it from the rear and find the hook. Where as thru lilly pads all bets are off.

I feel with smaller spinnerbaits like a slopmaster when i lose a fish it's usually because the fish knocked the bait sideways and clamped down. I hit the hooks and probably don't move that spinnerbait too much in the fishes mouth at that moment.
gimruis
Posted 10/10/2024 8:58 AM (#1031147 - in reply to #1031138)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 158


North of 8 - 10/9/2024 1:42 PM

I too have trouble keeping muskie pinned with spinners. What I don't get is why when a pike hits, I normally don't have them get off. Last fall I hooked 3 pike in the 30" range in about 45 minutes and all were solidly hooked.


I've had 3 muskies come off with a spinnerbait since mid August. When they jump, they shake their head like a bass and the lure comes flying out. None of them were real big but its still frustrating. Maybe I need to set the hook harder since they have an iron jaw.
dickP
Posted 10/10/2024 6:33 PM (#1031149 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 321


Ya hooking can be an issue at times BUT rarely for me on big fish.
Original poster mentioned ‘Ace’ spinnerbaits. I throw them a lot in almost all situations except very thick weeds. As to hooking, Jerry O might kill me for this but i have him put one size bigger hooks on the rear when i get my annual order made.
dickP
Posted 10/11/2024 5:54 AM (#1031150 - in reply to #1031149)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 321


Well I knew it was likely to happen.A friend/partner reminded me many,himself included,feel smaller hooks are better.Easier penetration etc.so,We all know what we know,right?use what u want.
On 'hooking' in general always remember how many millions of head shaking,jumping bass have been caught on them-with 10 lb type mono.
ToddM
Posted 10/11/2024 12:05 PM (#1031158 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits





Posts: 20214


Location: oswego, il
The lift and drop is very effective in late fall and at dark during that time of year.

Edited by ToddM 10/11/2024 12:06 PM
2rjs
Posted 10/18/2024 10:01 AM (#1031213 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits





Posts: 30


Location: Virginia
You guys that are having hook up issues, have you tried running a trailer hook? Seems like this would help with the blade arm preventing hookups.
miket55
Posted 10/18/2024 11:33 PM (#1031220 - in reply to #1031213)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 1253


Location: E. Tenn
2rjs - 10/18/2024 11:01 AM

You guys that are having hook up issues, have you tried running a trailer hook? Seems like this would help with the blade arm preventing hookups.


If you're running them through weeds, laydowns, or standing timber, a trailer hook would make the bait a lot less snagproof and/or weedless.
North of 8
Posted 10/19/2024 8:03 AM (#1031221 - in reply to #1031220)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




I do have a big spinner that came with a trailer hook, kept in place by a tiny plastic keeper. Funny thing is I have had a number of follows, but never caught a fish on it.
chuckski
Posted 10/19/2024 9:22 AM (#1031222 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 1383


Location: Brighton CO.
I was digging through my Spinnerbaits and I do have Big Tooth, are they the same people who make the Clackbaits? A buzzbait.
gimruis
Posted 10/22/2024 1:19 PM (#1031238 - in reply to #1031220)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 158


miket55 - 10/18/2024 11:33 PM

2rjs - 10/18/2024 11:01 AM

You guys that are having hook up issues, have you tried running a trailer hook? Seems like this would help with the blade arm preventing hookups.


If you're running them through weeds, laydowns, or standing timber, a trailer hook would make the bait a lot less snagproof and/or weedless.


I agree. The point of a spinnerbait is to keep it less snaggy in certain types of cover compared to an inline spinner with a treble hook. Adding a trailer hook removes this advantage.
chuckski
Posted 10/23/2024 8:22 AM (#1031241 - in reply to #1031116)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 1383


Location: Brighton CO.
I had a Spinnerbait (a Hi Fin) that had a treble hook rather than a single hook it was a pain to store so I gave it to my dad and he went on to catch our largest fish by long shot on that lure. He also caught some other Muskies on that lure too. Then the arm broke off just above the tie on. So I still have half the lure. This winter I'm going to see if I can have someone rebuilt it. I still have the bucktail part along with a weight I'm sure one of you handy guy's could fix it this winter. I will post a add in the lure building after the season is over.
jdsplasher
Posted 10/23/2024 8:23 PM (#1031244 - in reply to #1031241)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits





Posts: 2268


Location: SE, WI.

chuckski - 10/23/2024 8:22 AM I had a Spinnerbait (a Hi Fin) that had a treble hook rather than a single hook it was a pain to store so I gave it to my dad and he went on to catch our largest fish by long shot on that lure. He also caught some other Muskies on that lure too. Then the arm broke off just above the tie on. So I still have half the lure. This winter I'm going to see if I can have someone rebuilt it. I still have the bucktail part along with a weight I'm sure one of you handy guy's could fix it this winter. I will post an add in the lure building after the season is over.

I build many spinner baits with trebles. Leverage free, and love them cuz rarely do you miss a bite!!!

North of 8
Posted 10/24/2024 7:50 AM (#1031246 - in reply to #1031244)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




jdsplasher - 10/23/2024 8:23 PM

chuckski - 10/23/2024 8:22 AM I had a Spinnerbait (a Hi Fin) that had a treble hook rather than a single hook it was a pain to store so I gave it to my dad and he went on to catch our largest fish by long shot on that lure. He also caught some other Muskies on that lure too. Then the arm broke off just above the tie on. So I still have half the lure. This winter I'm going to see if I can have someone rebuilt it. I still have the bucktail part along with a weight I'm sure one of you handy guy's could fix it this winter. I will post an add in the lure building after the season is over.

I build many spinner baits with trebles. Leverage free, and love them cuz rarely do you miss a bite!!!



I can certainly see the advantage of a treble attached with a split ring for hooking and staying hooked, but I typically use spinner baits in thick cover. Don't they get fouled much more frequently than a fixed single hook?
miket55
Posted 10/24/2024 9:29 AM (#1031248 - in reply to #1031246)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 1253


Location: E. Tenn
North of 8 - 10/24/2024 8:50 AM

jdsplasher - 10/23/2024 8:23 PM

chuckski - 10/23/2024 8:22 AM I had a Spinnerbait (a Hi Fin) that had a treble hook rather than a single hook it was a pain to store so I gave it to my dad and he went on to catch our largest fish by long shot on that lure. He also caught some other Muskies on that lure too. Then the arm broke off just above the tie on. So I still have half the lure. This winter I'm going to see if I can have someone rebuilt it. I still have the bucktail part along with a weight I'm sure one of you handy guy's could fix it this winter. I will post an add in the lure building after the season is over.

I build many spinner baits with trebles. Leverage free, and love them cuz rarely do you miss a bite!!!



I can certainly see the advantage of a treble attached with a split ring for hooking and staying hooked, but I typically use spinner baits in thick cover. Don't they get fouled much more frequently than a fixed single hook?


IMHO... Yes.
IAJustin
Posted 10/24/2024 10:57 AM (#1031249 - in reply to #1031248)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 2014


Lures are tools and spinnerbaits are a crescent wrench, although I’ve caught 100’s of Muskies over the years on them, I still feel I probably don’t throw them as often as I should, definitely a great heavy cover bait… for what it’s worth I’ve never thrown one without a trailer hook and I’ve never thrown one with a treble hook, I find them to hook/land fish just fine on par or perhaps even better than say a DBL Cowgirl, dozen’s over 48 up to 53” and I can’t think of one large fish I’ve ever hooked and lost on a spinnerbaits??? Call it luck I guess

Edited by IAJustin 10/24/2024 10:59 AM
gimruis
Posted 10/24/2024 12:17 PM (#1031251 - in reply to #1031249)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 158


IAJustin - 10/24/2024 10:57 AM

Lures are tools and spinnerbaits are a crescent wrench, although I’ve caught 100’s of Muskies over the years on them, I still feel I probably don’t throw them as often as I should, definitely a great heavy cover bait… for what it’s worth I’ve never thrown one without a trailer hook and I’ve never thrown one with a treble hook, I find them to hook/land fish just fine on par or perhaps even better than say a DBL Cowgirl, dozen’s over 48 up to 53” and I can’t think of one large fish I’ve ever hooked and lost on a spinnerbaits??? Call it luck I guess ;)


I've lost 3 just this season on spinnerbaits. They jump, shake their head, and spit the hook.

There is usually some profanity thereafter.
IAJustin
Posted 10/24/2024 2:33 PM (#1031256 - in reply to #1031251)
Subject: Re: Spinnerbaits




Posts: 2014


With 9’ rods it’s usually possible to keep a muskie from jumping, if I really want to land a big fish I do everything in my power to keep the fish down (amount of pressure and bury rod as needed) , if it’s a nice little 40-45” fish just the opposite…rod tip high - coax them to the sky.
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