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Message Subject: Tournament Fishing and sub 40" Muskies
sworrall
Posted 10/27/2004 10:22 PM (#123065 - in reply to #122934)
Subject: RE: Tournament Fishing and sub 40" Muskies





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Every 50" fish on the planet was 34" once.
Bob
Posted 11/17/2004 4:12 PM (#125417 - in reply to #122736)
Subject: RE: Tournament Fishing and sub 40" Muskies


But not every 34" fish get's to 50".
Only the ones who get the proper genetics from their parents do.(Their parents were also likely 50")

No fish that ever spawned at 34" long EVER grew to 50". Disagree? Please provide evidence. I'd go further to say that no egg hatched from a 34" fish ever grew up to be 50".

lambeau
Posted 11/17/2004 4:46 PM (#125418 - in reply to #125417)
Subject: RE: Tournament Fishing and sub 40" Muskies


Bob - 11/17/2004 4:12 PM

But not every 34" fish get's to 50".
Only the ones who get the proper genetics from their parents do.(Their parents were also likely 50")

No fish that ever spawned at 34" long EVER grew to 50". Disagree? Please provide evidence. I'd go further to say that no egg hatched from a 34" fish ever grew up to be 50".



holey moley.
provide evidence that they HAVEN'T!!!

that's simply barber shop science.
genetics are genetics, and a fish's genes (which it passes on to offspring) don't change based on it's size when it spawns. does a 34" fish suddenly stop growing just because it happens to spawn???

if a fish that reaches it's genetic maximum potential at 40" spawns, it will replicate more fish with a propensity for that size - moderated by the genetic mix it gets from the other parent it spawns with.

if a fish with the genetic potential to reach 50" spawns when it's younger, say, at 34", it is passing on the genetic potential to get that big - again moderated by the mix from the other parent.

i'll grant you that fish which are going to grow bigger will reach a larger percentage of that maximum growth prior to reaching sexual maturity. however, to talk in "ALWAYS" or "NEVER" is blind.

selectively breeding only "big" fish would quickly lead to a narrowed gene pool, and diversity is nature's success tool for survivability. "hey look, these fish grow really big really fast! yep, but 'oops' they also have a genetic defect which kills 90% of them before they reach 3 years old." that may be hypothetical, but that is exactly what's happened in dog breeding. narrowing the gene pool creates very specified dogs - and the more specialized, the less survivable they become.

is that a good solution??? we're not smart enough to outdo Mother Nature - hundreds (thousands) of years of trying it with dogs and cows and whatever else has shown us that much.
sworrall
Posted 11/17/2004 4:55 PM (#125420 - in reply to #125417)
Subject: RE: Tournament Fishing and sub 40" Muskies





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Bob,
That commnet is so far out of context here it will mostly serve to confuse. The discussion here wasn't genetics, accelerated evolution, or selective breeding. The discussion was about tournaments that allow fish under 40" to be registered. My comment was intended, in context, to point out that 34" muskies can and do become 50" muskies, and that I feel a 34" fish is just fine as a tournament entry, and the fact I LIKE catching muskies whether they are 34", 44", or 54". By the way, part of the tournament discussion was about Minnesota waters.
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