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MuskyMike51
Posted 6/12/2012 4:21 PM (#564755)
Subject: High RPM low speed, and steering.




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Hey guys... Quick question for you. I have been fishing with my girlfriend's dad in his boat. His boat is a Smoker Craft 161 pro mag with a 50 horse two stroke carb engine. I noticed that when the boat is planed off and is run WOT the tack is pushing 7,000 or slightly higher rpm and in smooth conditions is getting up to about 23 mph. Previous owner of the boat installed a cavitation plate on engine and it still cavitates quite easily.I recently took a look at the prop and it looks like the numbers on the prop are 2 1/2 x 13.

Also, engine steering is very loose... in the sense that the engine will turn in whatever direction the boat is leaning. Move to left side and the engine "falls" to left. Same thing happens when moving to the right. I assume there is a way to tighten the steering to help with "holding" the engine in the position its in when i take my hands off the wheel.

My questions are:
1. I think 7K rpm seems a bit high. Seems like the engine has enough juice to push a potentially larger prop or maybe a higher pitch prop?
2. What should this engine be running at for RPM at WOT? My experience is with higher hp (150) and that engine gets no where near the 7K RPM mark.
3. How to tighten the steering?

Thanks for any advice in advance.
VMS
Posted 6/12/2012 10:37 PM (#564827 - in reply to #564755)
Subject: RE: High RPM low speed, and steering.





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Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Hiya,

First off, in order to determine max rpms, the brand of motor will help. My gut instinct says it will be around 5500 for maximum RPM, so yes...you would be correct in that 7000 is way too high. BUT...in order to be sure that the rpms are too high, it would be of benefit to have the tach checked to be sure. I have a feeling the tach might be something to consider as that particular boat weighs 960 pounds with a 90hp rating. A 50hp motor should get somewhere around 26 - 28 at best so 23 is not too far off.

How is the boat coming out of the hole if he punches it? spins? pops out?

A rough way to check is to see where the rpms are at idle while in gear. somewhere around 800 rpms would be about right.

Now...given the tach is reading correct, I would first look at where the motor is mounted on the transom. Is it high off of it, or is it flat on the top of the transom? If it is flat on the transom, I would say you are looking at going to something in a 11-3/4 x 17, and my gut instinct says the motor will be either a Johnson 2 stroke with a 2.42:1 gear ratio, or a Mercury bigfoot which will have a similar ratio around 2.33:1 (please do not quote me directly on that..the ratio escapes me right now).

As for the steering, there is probably not anything you can do with that as some of the steering brands out there do not have a design like Teleflex brand has with their no-feedback steering. I once ran our neighbor's lund angler and if I let go of that wheel, I'd flip the boat. It was just the design of the system. So...if the wheel and cables were to be replaced, you could alleviate that issue...otherwise, make sure the steering wheel is always in hand.

Steve





MuskyMike51
Posted 6/13/2012 9:48 AM (#564915 - in reply to #564827)
Subject: RE: High RPM low speed, and steering.




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VMS,

Thanks for the response. The engine is an envinrude 2 stroke, carbed. Not sure on the year. I'll have to take a look at it. I have a pretty good relationship with our local shop so i'll get in touch with them regarding the mounting and checking the tachometer. Regarding the steering, for right now i have been using a bungee cord to give me some friction between wheel and counsel. I'll let you know my findings.

Thanks again.

Mike
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