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GMan
Posted 11/10/2004 1:34 PM (#124653)
Subject: Torque on Terminal Tackle





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Location: Eden Prairie & Pine Island
Somebody out there must be a math genius, or otherwise just a smart guy/girl, and able to shed light on this for us. How much torque is exerted on your terminal tackle at the critical time of hook set, etc. If you assume a big 25-30 lb. fish hitting a subsurface bait (therefore add some additional weight to displace the water, too) with no stretch line out say 50 feet with the standard 7 foot rod.... My simple logic says if you move the fish (25lbs. + water displacement) and hammer it pretty good on hook set (say another 15lbs. of pressure) while the fish too is makng its move against you...could this really equate to almost 40lbs. of pressure?! Doesn't seem possible! I've heard stories of guys casting lures on land having their partners grab the lure to feel the strenght of a hook set...which turns out to be a great deal less than expected; but I have never tried that little experiment. Anyone able to shed light on this? It seems to me more realistic that maybe we are seeing 10-15lbs. of pressure at the most critical time, but I'm not sure how you figure this out logically/mathematically/accurately. How much pressure can the crimps on your leaders take? How much should be enough?
Gander Mt Guide
Posted 11/10/2004 1:46 PM (#124656 - in reply to #124653)
Subject: RE: Torque on Terminal Tackle





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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI
Dont forget that 25lbs of fish is boyant in the water, you're not moving dead weight. Do you think you could pick up a 25lb bowling ball with your rod without breaking it?
MNmatt
Posted 11/10/2004 3:15 PM (#124669 - in reply to #124653)
Subject: RE: Torque on Terminal Tackle




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to check your own set-up, take a scale (spring scale or digital) tie whatever line you use to it, crank your drag how you normally would, and see if the spool rotates when you set the hook, because if it does you aren't transmitting the full amount of your set to the end of your line. (never would anyway with stretch and such). you can use a scale to read drag settings, many trollers use this method. you don't set a hook nearly as hard as you think. have a partner hold the end of a rod in his hand and bend the rod as hard as you can, your partner won't have any trouble hanging on. there's a lot of variables that deal with the fish's weight and which direction he's moving. there really isn't much "torque" on terminal tackle, its more of a tension put on it. the way most materials deal with shock, your line would break and not your metal terminal tackle on a high-shock set. unless the terminal tackle is of low quality or wore out. many people probably know what im talking about when they've broken their line casting a lure and getting a "proffesional overrun" or when line has deteriorated and breaks from shock.

so after much rambling....

there's only one way to know for sure, to check it with a buddy and too much time on your hands. with quality components, you should be WAY more worried about your line than the terminal tackle.

i might have to look into this more. it got me thinking.

-MNmatt
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