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Message Subject: Big Rubber
muskymagnet
Posted 4/10/2013 7:24 AM (#633208)
Subject: Big Rubber




Posts: 93


I have to say I'm in love with Pounders and Medussas. However, after a while it starts to hurt. Maybe it's my posture? Too much shoulder? Should I take a break? Any suggestions for casting 16oz+ rubber for hours at a time? Thanks.

MM
jchiggins
Posted 4/10/2013 7:43 AM (#633214 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 1760


Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn
Let a quality rod made for big rubber do the work. I use a LT big dawg . Slow your cast down and make sure your rod loads up and you're not snap casting with your shoulder
CiscoKid
Posted 4/10/2013 8:01 AM (#633220 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: RE: Big Rubbers





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
muskymagnet - 4/10/2013 7:24 AM

I have to say I'm in love with Pounders and Medussas. However, after a while it starts to hurt. Maybe it's my posture? Too much shoulder? Should I take a break? Any suggestions for casting 16oz+ rubber for hours at a time? Thanks.

MM


Best advice...just don't do it for long hours.
RunNGun
Posted 4/10/2013 8:08 AM (#633224 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 132


Like jchiggins said, let the rod tip load up and it will almost 'slingshot' the bait for you. It's more of a long, slower sweeping casting motion.

But yea.....throwing big rubber for hours at a time will beat you up no matter how you do it.
muskyhunter47
Posted 4/10/2013 8:16 AM (#633227 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
What I want to see is a pounder loncher.like a trap thrower on the front of the boat to lunch your baits step on pedaland it throws your pounder for you.
jchiggins
Posted 4/10/2013 8:26 AM (#633230 - in reply to #633227)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 1760


Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn
muskyhunter47 - 4/10/2013 8:16 AM

What I want to see is a pounder loncher.like a trap thrower on the front of the boat to lunch your baits step on pedaland it throws your pounder for you.
backslashes would be awesome
Flambeauski
Posted 4/10/2013 11:08 AM (#633285 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 4342


Location: Smith Creek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOoQGsw3QbM

Mr Musky
Posted 4/10/2013 11:15 AM (#633290 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers





Posts: 999


Pic a rod that has a LONG butt handle on it first, grip your back hand as far back on the butt as possible then while casting with the rod behind you lower the rod towards the water so it loads up then launch it directly over your head but let the rod toss the pounder not your arms/shoulders.
Brad P
Posted 4/10/2013 11:51 AM (#633300 - in reply to #633214)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 833


jchiggins - 4/10/2013 7:43 AM

Let a quality rod made for big rubber do the work. I use a LT big dawg . Slow your cast down and make sure your rod loads up and you're not snap casting with your shoulder


This is the key. Use the rod to put mechanical advantage in your favor. Or as the psycho shimano tech might say "COWBOY, YOUR TECHNIQUE SUCK! LET ROD DO WORK!"
Pesca
Posted 4/10/2013 12:37 PM (#633314 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Great underwater videos


There's a lot of options to those big rubbers that kill your back. Have a look at these underwater videos at www.lureaction.com.

Cheers
//Pesca
Killerbug
Posted 4/10/2013 12:56 PM (#633323 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: RE: Big Rubbers





Posts: 339


Location: Denmark
muskymagnet - 4/10/2013 7:24 AM

I have to say I'm in love with Pounders and Medussas. However, after a while it starts to hurt. Maybe it's my posture? Too much shoulder? Should I take a break? Any suggestions for casting 16oz+ rubber for hours at a time? Thanks.

MM


Gym sessions will help. I did a lot last year, and was comfortable throwing Pounders, at least 8 hours a day.
Tackle Industries
Posted 4/10/2013 7:15 PM (#633427 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
I need a program where I can just ship a TI XXH rod for guys to try. Buy it if you like it program...

James
CiscoKid
Posted 4/10/2013 7:16 PM (#633429 - in reply to #633427)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
Tackle Industries - 4/10/2013 7:15 PM

I need a program where I can just ship a TI XXH rod for guys to try. Buy it if you like it program...

James


That sounds like a good program.
Mr Musky
Posted 4/10/2013 8:01 PM (#633459 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: RE: Big Rubbers


And a program that works! Love that rod James!
MuskieFever
Posted 4/10/2013 10:45 PM (#633524 - in reply to #633427)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 572


Location: Maplewood, MN
Tackle Industries - 4/10/2013 7:15 PM

I need a program where I can just ship a TI XXH rod for guys to try. Buy it if you like it program...

James


I like where this is going!
Landry
Posted 4/11/2013 5:21 PM (#633762 - in reply to #633524)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 1023


I used a ti xh last fall for pounders. I am neither big or overly strong. I noticed a huge improvement with this rod vs my xxh rod I had previously which was really stiff. I think James nailed the action. I am building a custom on one of his blanks now. The rod really did a lot of the work for me and I threw pounders all day a few days last fall with no prob. I think it flexes perfectly for keeping fish pinned too.
That's just my opinion. Everyone has one:)
Landry
Scott
Posted 4/12/2013 6:39 AM (#633906 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: RE: Big Rubbers


Work out....it's amazing the stamina and endurance you'll gain on the water if your consistently lifting and getting good workouts in!
T_Peterzen55
Posted 4/12/2013 7:08 AM (#633910 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers





Posts: 117


Take a break from the Pounder and cast the 2 Pounder
RiverMan
Posted 4/12/2013 10:28 AM (#633965 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
Work out as Scott suggested, it makes a huge difference. I just fish a bait until I get tired then switch to something else for awhile.............don't forget, it's supposed to be fun.

RM
Guest
Posted 4/12/2013 6:14 PM (#634086 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: RE: Big Rubbers


what he said^^^ start throwing the two pounder, once worn out from that, snap on a pounder and it will feel like a mag. Then after tiring, pop 4 advil and repeat.
muskyhunter47
Posted 4/12/2013 8:44 PM (#634116 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
the 2 pounder has been out for a few years.when are they going to come out with the 3 pounder?dont know if i would cast it but trolling might be a good thing.
Kirby Budrow
Posted 4/12/2013 9:07 PM (#634126 - in reply to #634116)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers





Posts: 2389


Location: Chisholm, MN
I don't recall what this cast is called but you essentially use the rod and pounder like a pendulum. Let enough line out so that the bait is hanging by your head with the rod pointed straight up. Swing the bait toward your head from front to back in one motion. The momentum of the bait going behind you will load the rod. When it's loaded, make your cast in one fluid motion. The momentum from the bait take almost all the stress out of your arms. I learned this from guides on vermilion. Hard to explain but it works very well.
jonnysled
Posted 4/12/2013 10:21 PM (#634136 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
learned a trick from Herbie last year ... it works. hang the pounder behind you all the way down to the water, yah, lots and lots of line out, then throw it.
montei
Posted 4/12/2013 11:57 PM (#634153 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 87


^^^ agreed i saw ben olsen on keys outdoors awhile ago do that and it works. i usually leave line as long as my rod which is 9'. i do this with all my dawns.
lookin4_big_gurls
Posted 4/13/2013 12:11 AM (#634155 - in reply to #634153)
Subject: Re: Big Rubbers




Posts: 315


think of it as a catapult guys.... lay your rod over your shoulder so it is parallel to the water with a solid 6 ft of line out, you can basically be at a dead stop then in one fluid motion launch it out.

Or as Timmy said...throw something heavier than a lber, and then go back to a lber...totally different bait!! HAH!!!!
muskymagnet
Posted 4/13/2013 6:42 AM (#634164 - in reply to #633906)
Subject: RE: Big Rubbers




Posts: 93


I work all all the time, and have for 35 years. It's a gradual breakdown of my body from years of abuse in the weight room, martial arts, skiing, and not to mention, musky fishing. I do take Advil and seems to help temporarily.
muskymagnet
Posted 4/13/2013 6:44 AM (#634165 - in reply to #633906)
Subject: RE: Big Rubbers




Posts: 93


I work all all the time, and have for 35 years. It's a gradual breakdown of my body from years of abuse in the weight room, martial arts, skiing, and not to mention, musky fishing. I do take Advil and seems to help temporarily.
muskie24/7
Posted 4/13/2013 5:11 PM (#634382 - in reply to #634165)
Subject: RE: Big Rubbers





Posts: 909


Get a suitable weight rod with a split grip on it! This will force you to load the rod correctly
Medford Fisher
Posted 4/14/2013 4:26 PM (#634624 - in reply to #633208)
Subject: Re: Big Rubber




Posts: 1061


Location: Medford, WI
Sled........you threw a pounder??? Comeonnnn....I'll believe it when I see it! Getting the crappies yet?

As mentioned above, throw a two pounder for a while and then go back to pounder. Push-ups work wonders also...and no, not the Flintstone ones!
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