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stugots4u
Posted 8/17/2007 9:37 AM (#270365)
Subject: flambeau flowage




Posts: 92


Location: chicago
Just wondering if alot of folks on here fish the flambeau flowage. I see alot of big fish out there but have a tough time getting them to bite.Why dont a lot of anglers fish here for muskies??? There are definitly a lot of big fish here!!!
Ifishskis
Posted 8/17/2007 9:41 AM (#270366 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage





Posts: 395


Location: NW WI
Dangerous place to drive your boat around. Too many underwater landmines for me. No musky is worth a damaged prop or lower unit....at least to me.

Drive 2 hrs west over to the Chip if you want that kind of flowage/lake setup. Big fish and it's pretty safe to drive around.
Wags
Posted 8/17/2007 12:28 PM (#270376 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage


Yes, lots of people don't like to trash there boats out there. You are NEVER safe. I'll take my chances though, I'd much rather deal with driving around slow than the the hoards of people on some of the more famous muskie waters. The TFF can be like the canadian wilderness some days. If you like the TFF, give the Gile Flowage a try........it too can be dangerous but some huge fish with no pressure and nice scenery!
BrianSwenson
Posted 8/17/2007 1:25 PM (#270386 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 201


Location: Stevens Point
I like it for the scenery and low boat traffic, little development. but I only fish it once a year.
stugots4u
Posted 8/17/2007 4:58 PM (#270422 - in reply to #270376)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage




Posts: 92


Location: chicago
So do you believe there are a lot of trophy fish there???
Ifishskis
Posted 8/17/2007 6:06 PM (#270427 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage





Posts: 395


Location: NW WI
Trophy fish potential for sure......"lots" can mean different things to diffent people.

Gile Flowage? = sure if there's any water in it. THe power co. that regulates the dam there doesnt give a hoot about fisherman...only their bottom line.
Guest
Posted 8/17/2007 6:11 PM (#270428 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage


Its so weird cause I dont see alot of people fishing for muskies. But you do see alot of walleye fisherman. But I there are alot of hogs. 51 3/4 is my boats best. Alot of pikes that get eaten by skies. Anybody no of any good guides there??
Jim
Posted 8/17/2007 6:48 PM (#270429 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage


I fish the Flambeau Flowage from time to time. YES !! many Many trees --Floaters are a real problem--constantly on the move. I go slow even in the areas I know and am confident around. The obstacles can change on a daily basis Real bad on windy days. Now the good part--There are Muskys out there and definately some large fish. The locals who catch them don't advertise it !! I know of a few Very big fish that heve been caught in the last 2 years that never made and web forum board. It is a untapped trophy potential body of water for those who want to risk their boats and motors. Yes boat damage is a real possibilty---Get the best Map you can and go very slow--Impossible to cover the whole area. Good Luck---I will be up there again in Late Oct looking for 1 of those large one's myself. JIM
Guest
Posted 8/17/2007 7:41 PM (#270431 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage


How do they come up with a stunted pike population??
sworrall
Posted 8/17/2007 7:47 PM (#270432 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 32955


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
How does who come up with a stunted pike population?
MuskyHopeful
Posted 8/17/2007 8:22 PM (#270435 - in reply to #270432)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 2865


Location: Brookfield, WI
Steve, it must be the WI DNR. Isn't that their specialty? I swear I've heard people claim that somewhere.

Kevin

My steak was too salty.
sworrall
Posted 8/17/2007 8:30 PM (#270436 - in reply to #270435)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 32955


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Hopeful,
Eh, probably not. I think the bluegills conspired. Ever see an angry gill?
Guest
Posted 8/17/2007 8:30 PM (#270437 - in reply to #270435)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage


I really don't know but they all seem the same size!!!!
sworrall
Posted 8/17/2007 8:31 PM (#270438 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 32955


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Probably a strong year class, big numbers. You can ask the local DNR folks what they know about the pike there.
MuskyHopeful
Posted 8/17/2007 8:33 PM (#270439 - in reply to #270437)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 2865


Location: Brookfield, WI
If bluegills had teeth, would they be piranhas?

Kevin

It was really salty. I'm glad we had gift certificates.
sworrall
Posted 8/17/2007 8:36 PM (#270440 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 32955


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Worse, Hopeful, they would be like little oval sharks.
MuskyHopeful
Posted 8/17/2007 8:52 PM (#270441 - in reply to #270440)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 2865


Location: Brookfield, WI
That's what I thought. When I was a kid during the 60's, our friends had a camper at a place called Nature's Villa, and we swam in this little campground lake. The little bluegills would pick at us while we were swimming. I always thought if they had teeth, it would be a blood bath.

Since then, out of spite, I eat them when I get the chance, though I haven't caught one in years, and only occasionally get my revenge in taverns/restaurants that serve them on Fridays.

Kevin

Warm, but not humid, which is a relief.
sworrall
Posted 8/17/2007 8:57 PM (#270442 - in reply to #270441)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 32955


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Well, there you go! Get on up here, bluegills are on Sue's 'dinners to make regularly' list all year. I can see to it revenge will be taken.
MuskyHopeful
Posted 8/17/2007 9:21 PM (#270447 - in reply to #270442)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 2865


Location: Brookfield, WI
I'd like that. Could I bring Gracie, my ten year old daughter? I think I would enjoy a day fishing that didn't include chucking eight once baits with an eight foot Diamondback.

The last time I fished before taking up the musky thing last year was seven years ago. I went to Cass a couple years in a row with my Dad before he passed. We caught our share of walleyes, but he loved to catch and eat perch. When the perch were schooled and biting, that was really fun.

I think I had a nice touch with an ultra-lite.

Back on topic. I know for a fact there's one of our M1st regulars that knows the Flambeau well. I wouldn't name him and put him on the spot, but he usually chimes in on Flambeau threads.

Kevin

I hope Slamr got a 50".

ToddM
Posted 8/17/2007 10:13 PM (#270460 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage





Posts: 20278


Location: oswego, il
The pike on TFF have always been small. My dad did get one around 33-34" but every other one we have caught and there are a ton of them are in the 18-22" range. Fun for the kids. I read a minnesota study on stunted pike or what people percieved to be a stunted pike population. These lakes were fairly shallow, got hot and the pike had short lives but were quite prolific. The TFF seems to fit that profile. The TFF, is not a true action water for muskies but they are in there of all sizes. We have caught dinks, decent ones I seen them up to 50".

Like what was stated earlier, there are plenty of hazards and the floating debris on windy days or heavy rains can cause additional problems. Pic an area and launch from there.
sworrall
Posted 8/17/2007 10:34 PM (#270461 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 32955


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Hopeful, absolutely, bring your daughter!

Plenty of room here, and kids are welcome. I'd take both of you gill fishing in a second.
muskyboy
Posted 8/17/2007 10:54 PM (#270464 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage


Massive muskies in low density, but beautiful place to fish. Agreed, head to the Mighty Chip for more action from Class A water!
bulldawger
Posted 8/17/2007 11:02 PM (#270468 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage


There are muskies of all sizes in there and it can be numbers water as well as big fish water.

slimm
Posted 8/18/2007 12:24 PM (#270503 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: Re: flambeau flowage





Posts: 367


Location: Chicago
No muskies in that sewer! Go to the Chip, the Turtle is waaay to dangerous, and no fish...Its all bad. Stay away from Baraboo, Blair, the Horseshoe, Trude all bad.

Guest
Posted 8/18/2007 3:01 PM (#270513 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage


I caught my biggest back by blair 51 3/4. I disagree I think that the flowage is one of the best in wis. But they are very hard to get moving!!!
Guest
Posted 8/18/2007 4:41 PM (#270518 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage


The hot spots map (I think) mentions that pike rarely live over 4 years therefore you don't get any size.
Jim
Posted 8/18/2007 5:29 PM (#270528 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage


Yes the pike are small and have been for as long as I have been fishing it---since 1968. Many, Many in that 16-22 inch range. Yes Musky are what I would call low density but Like I posted earlier --there are some very nice fish --50+ inchers caught every season that don't appear on any website. Best Place I have been in WI for catching SMALLMOUTH !!. During the summer months lots of action. If we target just Smallmouth we have 60 fish days per 2 anglers to a boat. Tons of them in the 14-16 inch range and some real hogs 19-20 are not uncommon.
esoxcpr
Posted 8/18/2007 11:32 PM (#270552 - in reply to #270365)
Subject: RE: flambeau flowage




Posts: 149


There are 3 main reasons you don't see more musky anglers out there:

1) Very dangerous place to boat. As mentioned many boating hazards exist and it's ever changing, especially when windy. You will lose lures there on stumps and rocks given enough time on the water.

2) There are more musky anglers out there than you think. With 15,000 acres of water and hundreds of islands and bays it isn't hard to be in a spot where you don't percieve that there are other anglers out there.

3) The TFF is a very low density fishery. There has never been any documented natural reproduction, so it's all stocked fish. It has never been stocked very heavily, usually every other year on average at the state mandated maximum of 2,500 fish. More only if extras exist after all other waters get stocked. 2,500 per 'year class' on an every other year basis in a 15,000 acre lake or 1 musky stocked every 2 years for every 6 acres of water is mighty slim pickens, and that even assumes they all survive which we know they don't.

Bottom line is that there are some large fish in there, but it's never been and won't likely ever be a numbers type lake. You can go days without seeing a fish. It's tough water to fish in what are usually tough conditions and you always run the risk of boat or motor damage every single time on the water. That's why more people don't fish it.

Edited by esoxcpr 8/18/2007 11:34 PM
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