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joncraze
Posted 10/3/2014 10:43 AM (#733123)
Subject: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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How do you do it, especially this time of the year. I'm new to fishing the cold fall months for the chance at a monster.

Big lures slow?
Topwaters if the water is still a certain temperature?
Big Blades? Big Plastics?

Just curious what your go to's are
Musky952
Posted 10/3/2014 10:52 AM (#733126 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




Posts: 400


Location: Metro
gear my friend
Schultz345
Posted 10/3/2014 10:57 AM (#733129 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




Posts: 221


winter gear + live bait + heater in boat
Musky Face
Posted 10/3/2014 2:45 PM (#733165 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




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Pounders, monster dussas, big blades, big cranks, big glide baits and meat.
woodieb8
Posted 10/3/2014 3:53 PM (#733174 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




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cold beer venision sausage a warm fire. st clairs messed up.
esox911
Posted 10/3/2014 4:59 PM (#733180 - in reply to #733174)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




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Proper gear will keep you warm--Suckers will do the rest --that is if it's too Cold to cast---But now is just about right for casting and dangling a Sucker---Heading up in 10 days myself and I hope it actually cools down a bit more.
PHISHMAN
Posted 10/3/2014 7:12 PM (#733193 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




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Suckers, pounders, big suicks, phantoms, supermodels, cranks
sworrall
Posted 10/3/2014 9:49 PM (#733203 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Warm clothing, good boots, and keep casting (because we can't troll here yet)...wear your life vest!

I like gliders in the colder water because I can make 'em dance and let them sit still quite a bit in the same cast.

5" crank baits just reeled in middle speed can be great. Still toss a Weagle and hair until ice up. I rarely fish suckers because if I do I will break the law, which won't be an issue next year.

If you don't toss a Creature, you should.
jdsplasher
Posted 10/4/2014 5:38 PM (#733283 - in reply to #733203)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Location: SE, WI.

SW, Sir;

What the heck is a Creature???  From the black lagoon???      :)



Edited by jdsplasher 10/4/2014 5:56 PM
Jeremy
Posted 10/5/2014 4:35 PM (#733375 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: RE: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




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Location: Minnesota.
I'll do Suicks and when I'm tired of pitching my two favs. I'll switch to a less fav. Suick!

A 10 incher maybe?? Yep....!

Good luck and stay safe in the cold weather.

sworrall
Posted 10/5/2014 4:53 PM (#733378 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
jd,
The young know not what they are missing.
fishhawk50
Posted 10/5/2014 5:18 PM (#733384 - in reply to #733378)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




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Location: oconomowoc, wi
sworrall - 10/5/2014 4:53 PM

jd,
The young know not what they are missing.

does Curtis make that creature?
sworrall
Posted 10/5/2014 5:21 PM (#733387 - in reply to #733384)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Don't think so....that was a copy of Jimmy Cairnes's and my Super Creature with a spinner attached to half the tail. Walt Fox out of Rockford was the first to make one of those, made one with the spinner in front too.....:)

I use Fliptail Lizard/Reaper tail handmade and the Fliptail Creature most of the time. Fliptail is back in business. Good to see them on the market again, I was almost out.
fishhawk50
Posted 10/5/2014 5:30 PM (#733391 - in reply to #733387)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




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Location: oconomowoc, wi
sworrall - 10/5/2014 5:21 PM

Don't think so....that was a copy of Jimmy Cairnes's and my Super Creature with a spinner attached to half the tail. Walt Fox out of Rockford was the first to make one of those, made one with the spinner in front too.....:)

I used Fliptail Lizard/Reaper tail handmade and the Fliptail Creature most of the time. Fliptail is back in business. Good to see them on the market again.

ah.. gotcha.
jdsplasher
Posted 10/5/2014 10:33 PM (#733437 - in reply to #733391)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Location: SE, WI.

Steve, you and I will never run out of creatures...got you covered:)

 Why you like the lizard/reaper tail, over the paddle? or don't you?  Would the thump of the paddle-tail Have more advantages  for water displacement / sound, versus the reaper tail? OR, does the reaper tail come through weeds better?

 JD



Edited by jdsplasher 10/5/2014 10:34 PM
sworrall
Posted 10/5/2014 10:50 PM (#733438 - in reply to #733437)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I like the paddle tails when I go to the big 1 ounce swimmer jigs in a couple weeks on the rocks, and the twist type tails with the 1/4 to 3/8 ounce diamond head stand up jigs on the weedlines because they sink slower with less glide and fish better in the weeds.

JD makes some seriously good creatures.
Ranger
Posted 10/9/2014 1:36 AM (#734105 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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And all creature colors are great as long as it's black.
bwalsh
Posted 10/9/2014 9:10 AM (#734136 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




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"I use Fliptail Lizard/Reaper tail handmade and the Fliptail Creature most of the time. Fliptail is back in business. Good to see them on the market again, I was almost out."

Could you post a picture of these or provide a link to a picture? I am familiar with the Curtis Creature, but not these.
bwalsh
Posted 10/9/2014 12:21 PM (#734159 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




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Found it: http://shop.fliptail-lures.com/Fliptail-Creature_c5.htm

Brad P
Posted 10/9/2014 12:54 PM (#734165 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)




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Steve,

What types of location are you keying on for this presentation, post turnover? Are you working them deep or shallow? Those seem like an interesting idea, I'm just curious how they've worked for you and whether or not they'd be applicable to the stuff I'm fishing here in the metro.

Edited by Brad P 10/9/2014 12:56 PM
sworrall
Posted 10/9/2014 12:56 PM (#734167 - in reply to #734165)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Weedlines, rock edges and dropoffs, and abrupt break lines of any type where Muskies reside.

Short article form 2005, I think:
http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/articles/11.11.2005/982/Of.Jigs.and...
jdsplasher
Posted 10/9/2014 11:25 PM (#734223 - in reply to #734167)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Location: SE, WI.

A few of my hand poured basement morsels The bubble or spot in the paddle tails is cork, to give a dead stick approach.

JD 



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bwalsh
Posted 10/10/2014 6:00 AM (#734226 - in reply to #733123)
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If these work well, it makes me wonder if a live mud puppy wouldn't be dynamite.

I'm sure it's been tried a million times already and I am very late to the idea.
jdsplasher
Posted 10/10/2014 7:52 AM (#734235 - in reply to #734226)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Location: SE, WI.

Brian, a lot of methods for catching fish are recycled. it is the craze of the bulldwag and dbl 10's right now. Old patterns will still work. I use them just about every outing.

 I once got my butt kicked in a musky tourney by a guy using night crawlers . Application and timing is everything.

 JD

Ranger
Posted 10/11/2014 9:42 PM (#734425 - in reply to #733123)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Curtis who? That guy was amazing in his determination using relatively small creatures in deep water for tanker fish.

Edited by Ranger 10/11/2014 9:47 PM
jdsplasher
Posted 10/11/2014 9:51 PM (#734426 - in reply to #734425)
Subject: Re: Approaching a cold front like this (upper midwest)





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Location: SE, WI.
 
Ranger, Sometimes I get a a little carried away with ideas..some successfull, some flops:)

 3 or 4 guys from this site are kicking some serious butt on my creatures...nice to hear that a few guys got the hang of creature fishing!

 Gene and a few other very good jig fisherman used to do very well on those Vilas county lakes with jigs. But, I know they used to fish the creatures all day long because that was their confidence bait. The problem with the young jig fisherman today is they just don't stick with it long enough to get confidence in the presentation. All presentations can be fined tuned for success .

 JD



Edited by jdsplasher 10/11/2014 10:04 PM
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