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Netman
Posted 7/21/2009 1:52 PM (#389734)
Subject: Throw back baits





Posts: 880


Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151
After reading Zak's post....... how many people use throw back baits and what do you use? I've had good follows that don't bite and wonder if another presentation can trigger the fish?

Netman
ski' patrol
Posted 7/21/2009 2:09 PM (#389737 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 280


Location: McFarland
One of my best times was when a buddy raised a mid 40's fish on a topraider and I threw the Krakken back at it. First cast and just crushed it...unfortunately still didn't boat the fish but it was fun!!!
Musky Brian
Posted 7/21/2009 2:12 PM (#389738 - in reply to #389737)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 1767


Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin
I use throw back baits all the time, almost on every non converted fish. I normally throw either bulldawgs, suzy suckers, or a twitched minnow bait. Every lake seems to have it's own personality on whether throwback lures work or what type of bait they look for..
teddy b
Posted 7/21/2009 2:46 PM (#389749 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits




Posts: 158


I have had some success with using a weagle as a throw back lure. I switch it up a bit if that doesn't work.
PSYS
Posted 7/21/2009 3:18 PM (#389760 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 1030


Location: APPLETON, WI
Mega D. Bulldawg. Or other "finesse" plastic jerkbait. Something that I can twitch, crank, pause and really work.
50"skie
Posted 7/21/2009 3:32 PM (#389768 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 425


I will sometimes throw a tube and twitch it slowly back too the boat.

"Toss em the Tube"



Edited by 50"skie 7/21/2009 3:33 PM
Roughneck1860
Posted 7/21/2009 4:06 PM (#389776 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 295


Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair
10" Fin-S minnow twiched. Depending on the depth I'm fishin' I sometimes and a large split shot on the front to get it down quicker either that or a shallow Dawg

Tim


Tim
dtaijo174
Posted 7/21/2009 4:22 PM (#389779 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 1169


Location: New Hope MN
I've never had any luck using throw backs... Maybe it's the lake i usually fish (very clear).
knooter
Posted 7/21/2009 4:29 PM (#389781 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits




Posts: 531


Location: Hugo, MN
Jigs. Especially if the fish followed deep or seemed sluggish. Just got one sunday on a half ounce esox cobra jig with silicone skirt and twister tail. Had seen the fish twice on the exact same spot, finally realized I was just not getting the bait down into the strike zone, thus only getting lazy follows. Only took about four casts to the spot when I felt him hit and set the hook. Nothing better than going back and catching one that looked like it couldn't be caught. Five casts later I had one follow in late, dropped the jig straight back down and my line went limp. I set the hook and ripped it right out of his mouth. Fun times when nothing else seems to be working. By far the most under-utilized baits out there.
jay lip ripper
Posted 7/21/2009 4:51 PM (#389783 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





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Location: lake x...where the hell is it?
try a search about throw back baits. i know u can find out more.
dtaijo174
Posted 7/21/2009 4:56 PM (#389784 - in reply to #389781)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 1169


Location: New Hope MN
knooter - 7/21/2009 4:29 PM

Jigs. Especially if the fish followed deep or seemed sluggish. Just got one sunday on a half ounce esox cobra jig with silicone skirt and twister tail. Had seen the fish twice on the exact same spot, finally realized I was just not getting the bait down into the strike zone, thus only getting lazy follows. Only took about four casts to the spot when I felt him hit and set the hook. Nothing better than going back and catching one that looked like it couldn't be caught. Five casts later I had one follow in late, dropped the jig straight back down and my line went limp. I set the hook and ripped it right out of his mouth. Fun times when nothing else seems to be working. By far the most under-utilized baits out there.


I've thought about the same thing, but never actually tried it. You pretty much sum up where I have struggled the most. Deep lazy follows. Thanks for the confidence booster. I'll try it out in the future.
ClintV
Posted 7/21/2009 5:02 PM (#389785 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: RE: Throw back baits




Posts: 38


Location: Twin Cities Metro
I always have a Gator Tube on a rod. They are a really good tube to pitch a little ways out from the follow and jig in.
Roughneck1860
Posted 7/21/2009 5:15 PM (#389787 - in reply to #389784)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 295


Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair
dtaijo174 - 7/21/2009 5:56 PM

knooter - 7/21/2009 4:29 PM

Jigs. Especially if the fish followed deep or seemed sluggish. Just got one sunday on a half ounce esox cobra jig with silicone skirt and twister tail. Had seen the fish twice on the exact same spot, finally realized I was just not getting the bait down into the strike zone, thus only getting lazy follows. Only took about four casts to the spot when I felt him hit and set the hook. Nothing better than going back and catching one that looked like it couldn't be caught. Five casts later I had one follow in late, dropped the jig straight back down and my line went limp. I set the hook and ripped it right out of his mouth. Fun times when nothing else seems to be working. By far the most under-utilized baits out there.


I've thought about the same thing, but never actually tried it. You pretty much sum up where I have struggled the most. Deep lazy follows. Thanks for the confidence booster. I'll try it out in the future.


Exactly what I was talking about with adding weight to the 10" Fin-S. They can be deadly.

Tim
T-Bone
Posted 7/21/2009 9:13 PM (#389817 - in reply to #389787)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits




Posts: 223


Location: Victoria,MN
I have had some awesome expeiences throwing back WTD topwaters including a 51" last fall that we threw back at at least 30 times before she showed her beautiful face and engulfed my Big Mama topwater bait.
The very next morning on the same location I nailed a 47 on the same bait after she blew up on it. This one I threw back at 5 times before she hit again.
This all occured the last week of October.
12gauge
Posted 7/21/2009 10:56 PM (#389841 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 159


Location: Stevens Point, WI
On topwaters, i'll throw back a wtd bait on a prop bait follow and vice versa. Everything else i like giving them a 7" eel to chew on, but i might have to try some of these tubes and jigs!
JKahler
Posted 7/21/2009 11:58 PM (#389844 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits




Posts: 1287


Location: WI
I had a 37" eat a Weagle as a throw back a couple weeks ago.
mnmusky101
Posted 7/22/2009 10:38 AM (#389879 - in reply to #389844)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 169


Location: Houlton, WI
any bait that is slower and smaller and in my opinion a diifferent color is a good throw back bait. I prefer the musky mojo wubble and the jackpot
Partycrasher
Posted 7/22/2009 1:36 PM (#389913 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits




Posts: 132


Creatures or a Musky-Hare jig.
Shamrocker
Posted 7/22/2009 5:54 PM (#389945 - in reply to #389913)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 139


When it is a calm evening I like to throw a black hog wobbler back. Where I fish it is dark water so I get pounded alot.
mota
Posted 7/22/2009 7:20 PM (#389956 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits


imho if the a fish dont strike on a bucktail,the chance he will smash a top water are close to 1%!
plastic jerk are way more appropriate
T-Bone
Posted 7/23/2009 1:47 PM (#390091 - in reply to #389956)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits




Posts: 223


Location: Victoria,MN
Thinking back to my early days of muskie fishing, I threw back a mag Shad Rap after a mid 40's rolled on a bucktail and I may have turned the handle 2X before the fish hit.
Sometimes I dont think it matters what you throw back at 'em,but it's all in the fishes attitude.
muskie_man
Posted 7/23/2009 6:11 PM (#390130 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 1237


Location: South Portsmouth, KY
A shallow dawg has been my best throw back bait. Somethin bout the slow moving hang in your face nature of a shallow dawg is tough to beat!
PSYS
Posted 7/25/2009 6:03 PM (#390464 - in reply to #390130)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 1030


Location: APPLETON, WI
muskie_man - 7/23/2009 6:11 PM

A shallow dawg has been my best throw back bait. Somethin bout the slow moving hang in your face nature of a shallow dawg is tough to beat!


Definitely!!
Beaver
Posted 7/25/2009 6:18 PM (#390465 - in reply to #390464)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





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I like to see all of the comments about plastics. Since hollow-bodied swim baits became popular for the bass boys, they started making bigger ones and some awesome hooks to go with them. I've got some 6"-7" ones rigged up with Sevenstrand wire to the eye of the hook and a swivel on the other end. The bigger lures have enough bulk that they are fairly easy to throw, and the EWG 7/0 hooks are made to stick and hold. Besides the swimbaits, I'll use the same hook and rig up a big Reaper instead. The Reaper on a light 7/0 swimbait hook is also a deadly lure for fishing reeds
Beav
kyle@bigwoodmuskylur
Posted 7/27/2009 12:45 PM (#390680 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 131


I'm going with what seems to be the majority here and give the nod to soft plastics. I like Red October tubes, but smaller Bull Dawgs and hollow bodied swimbaits are also effective for me. Hippo Tackle makes a 7 1/2" hollow bodies bait that can be deadly! http://www.bigwoodmuskylures.com/lures.php?cat=swimbaits
Lens Creep
Posted 7/28/2009 11:44 AM (#390862 - in reply to #389734)
Subject: Re: Throw back baits





Posts: 123


Not sure if it was mentioned, but Hawg Wobblers and Shallow Invaders have worked for me.
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