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Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/27/2017 10:48 PM (#847791)
Subject: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
Does anybody know of any bucktails that are small but also heavy enough to keep down while burning them. I would say I'm looking to stay under 8 inches. I don't really care what types of blades, single or double doesn't matter. Just looking for a heavy but small bucktail. Thanks!
Muskie Gal
Posted 1/27/2017 11:49 PM (#847797 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Dadson lazer.
Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/28/2017 12:24 AM (#847798 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
Thanks, will defiantly be adding a few of those to my never ending lure collection. Anybody know of any others? Maybe with marabou or different blades. I'm trying to make myself a whole lineup of small deep bucktails. If you know of any smaller ones too please let me know!
muskyhunter47
Posted 1/28/2017 5:04 AM (#847799 - in reply to #847798)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Location: Minnesota
If you can make it to any shows there are several different guys that build baits in the color you want I have them add extra weight.
pklingen
Posted 1/28/2017 5:51 AM (#847803 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Location: NE Ohio
you can add weight to the ones you already have with a split ring and a sinker.
NathanH
Posted 1/28/2017 8:49 AM (#847812 - in reply to #847803)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?





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Location: MN
You can also just re shaft the tail and add the weight you want.
Jeff Hanson
Posted 1/28/2017 9:38 AM (#847821 - in reply to #847812)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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You can order Spankys with extra weight or have him make one up for you at shows also. They are already a little heavier than most other bucktails but you can ask him to add more lead no problem.
Jeff Hanson
madisonmuskyguide.com
Slopski
Posted 1/28/2017 9:53 AM (#847824 - in reply to #847821)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Location: Cedarburg, WI.
I can retrieve a 700 buchertail pretty fast with a 6:2:1 beast and it doesn't blow out. The lil 500 buchertail is weighted as well I believe. Might even be better.
Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/28/2017 10:50 AM (#847827 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
It's not so much that they blow out its more that I just want them to run a little deeper.
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 1/28/2017 10:56 AM (#847828 - in reply to #847827)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?





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Location: St. Lawrence River
Gerry Carrol can make a bucktail as heavy as you want. Spanky also has heavy options.
ARmuskyaddict
Posted 1/28/2017 10:58 AM (#847829 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?





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Build them yourself. I started making my own for the same reason, and now make them for buddies in need as well. 1 oz of weight works the best. Indiana blades don't blow out as easily. And, it gives you something to do during Winternet!
Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/28/2017 11:04 AM (#847831 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
I also like the idea of just modifying the ones I already have. To add weight would I just cut the wire and remove the skirt, hooks, and blades. Then get new wire and reassemble it adding an egg sinker or something? Is that what you guys find best, is to use a egg sinker?
jdsplasher
Posted 1/28/2017 12:53 PM (#847847 - in reply to #847831)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?





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Location: SE, WI.

I think Moores lures has a keel weight he carries for this very reason.

Here are a few idea's. I've been building these Custom morsels for about 25 years. Incorporating a keel weight spinnerbait head, or the erie deerie head has put many in the boat for us. The Mrs has won 3 muskie tourney using these bucktails I call Litl Dynamite!!!

 JD

 




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FlyPiker
Posted 1/28/2017 1:54 PM (#847852 - in reply to #847791)
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Mepp's giant killers are heavier and run deeper than you'd think by looking at them. Harassers are also good but don't run quite as deep as the giant killers, and the hooks tend to rust, but they just seem to be better fish catchers in my experience.
Slime King
Posted 1/28/2017 2:47 PM (#847858 - in reply to #847791)
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Location: midwest
Team Rhino offers heavy weighted showgirls and cowgirls.
14ledo81
Posted 1/28/2017 5:22 PM (#847871 - in reply to #847791)
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Location: Ashland WI
Another option is a weighted leader.
figure 8
Posted 1/28/2017 5:25 PM (#847872 - in reply to #847871)
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I like spankys they are heavy and are good for casting against wind. I will be getting more of them from milwaukee show.
Musky_Mo16
Posted 1/28/2017 7:01 PM (#847879 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't
Now that I realized how easy it is to modify my bucktails, I've realized I can also change out the blades. Where do you guys find muskie size blades 7,8,9,10 in Colorado or Indiana style? I looked on Rollie and helens and it seems like they have a limited selection on colors.
Muskiemetal
Posted 1/28/2017 9:50 PM (#847886 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: RE: Small but heavy bucktails?





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Location: Wisconsin
Here's a custom I did last year, using a jethead and .040 blades.  It's about 8" long and 3.5oz.  Probably could drop a few beads off of it and get it down to 7.5" or a little less and maybe 3oz.  


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Randy
Posted 1/29/2017 8:39 AM (#847915 - in reply to #847847)
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Location: South Central Wisconsin
jdsplasher - 1/28/2017 12:53 PM

I think Moores lures has a keel weight he carries for this very reason.

Here are a few idea's. I've been building these Custom morsels for about 25 years. Incorporating a keel weight spinnerbait head, or the erie deerie head has put many in the boat for us. The Mrs has won 3 muskie tourney using these bucktails I call Litl Dynamite!!!

 JD

 

JD, how much weight do you have in the back? Do they cast ok or do you find that they tangle on occasion? I like that idea. I've been making my own for 25 years as well. Never thought of the weight added to the front like that.
Flambeauski
Posted 1/29/2017 9:10 AM (#847920 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Location: Smith Creek
Muskie Safari makes a really heavy twin #7
7ovr50
Posted 1/29/2017 10:53 AM (#847935 - in reply to #847879)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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Musky_Mo16 - 1/28/2017 7:01 PM

Now that I realized how easy it is to modify my bucktails, I've realized I can also change out the blades. Where do you guys find muskie size blades 7,8,9,10 in Colorado or Indiana style? I looked on Rollie and helens and it seems like they have a limited selection on colors.

Check Lure parts on line for supplies
jdsplasher
Posted 1/29/2017 1:43 PM (#847958 - in reply to #847915)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?





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Location: SE, WI.

Randy, I pour 1/2, and 3/4 oz power heads that act as a keel weight to the back, under the hair.

 3/4 cast good, 1/2oz in back pretty much balances the bait, with the hair wet, and hook in back.

 Sometimes the head tries to lead the way on the cast, but seems to sag downward when entering water, which is a good thing. Nope, really don't notice many hang ups on cast, BUT, balancing bait front and back should eleviate any tangling.

 If you recall, Buchers first depthraider buck had the Erie dearie head up front...

JD

 MO16, U can Get your blades from Moores lures, lure parts, ect...

backdraft
Posted 1/29/2017 2:54 PM (#847968 - in reply to #847847)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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jdsplasher - 1/28/2017 12:53 PM

I think Moores lures has a keel weight he carries for this very reason.

Here are a few idea's. I've been building these Custom morsels for about 25 years. Incorporating a keel weight spinnerbait head, or the erie deerie head has put many in the boat for us. The Mrs has won 3 muskie tourney using these bucktails I call Litl Dynamite!!!

 JD

 





Reminds me of the old Mepp's Musky Lusox. I was thinking about putting that bait back into the line-up. This just confirmed my thoughts. Thanks JD.


Backdraft
Peter Stoltman
Posted 1/29/2017 11:29 PM (#848014 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?




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You might want to check out the RJ lures mini Tiger Tail.
https://www.muskyshop.com/modules/cart/products.php/keys/RJ/page/1/i...
johnsonaaro2
Posted 1/30/2017 9:09 AM (#848038 - in reply to #847791)
Subject: Re: Small but heavy bucktails?





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Location: Madison, WI
Rabska Musky Lures or Pond Fork Blades on facebook can make ya anything you need
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