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| muddymusky |
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Posts: 611 | What snaps do you use for casting and trolling leaders? I have been using stay lock snaps but they don't seem to be as good as they used to be. I would like to try a different brand but haven't found anything similar. | ||
| dfkiii |
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![]() Location: Sawyer County, WI | I'm still using Stay-loks. As with any terminal tackle, when it wears out I just replace it with another. What problems are you having with them ? | ||
| Jeremy |
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Posts: 1150 Location: Minnesota. | muddymusky - 3/14/2016 8:11 PM What snaps do you use for casting and trolling leaders? I have been using stay lock snaps but they don't seem to be as good as they used to be. I would like to try a different brand but haven't found anything similar. Some of the best I've found are put out by AHL. Prepare to get some flattened back teeth unless you have stronger thumbs than I do. I have a few on some leaders but I also use the stay-lock snaps too. I've not had one fail yet and switch them out if they appear to have any wear on them. Never come close to wearing out one of AHL's snaps yet. They're way thick and tough. I have around 12 of them. They're inexpensive! Jeremy. | ||
| JakeStCroixSkis |
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Posts: 1425 Location: St. Lawrence River | Stay loc for both trolling and casting. | ||
| NPike |
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Posts: 612 | I use Offshore Angler's Duolock Snaps. seem to work well enough a good design. Once used some cheaper snaps (rated at an equally high test. The fish could open them up, not so with Offshore Angler Duolock Snaps provided you buy the bigger ones. | ||
| pklingen |
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Posts: 866 Location: NE Ohio | the pre-mustad stay-locks by stringease were the best. then sold to mustad. the first round mustads not so good. this era of mustads better. still better than anything else IMO. never have had a snap failure or premature opening. the tensile strength (stiffer, harder to open and close) seemed much better on the originals. as soon as they lose color and get shiny, i change them out and discard old one. i use them for everyhting. sizes 4, 4.5, & 5. | ||
| ESOX Maniac |
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Posts: 2754 Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | muddymusky - 3/14/2016 8:11 PM What snaps do you use for casting and trolling leaders? I have been using stay lock snaps but they don't seem to be as good as they used to be. I would like to try a different brand but haven't found anything similar. Not similar - better! Duke Double Lock Snap,,, a real double spring loaded double lock that cannot be opened under pressure, even if the second lock could be opened, the first lock will hold your fish. I have never had one open the second lock! Best snap ever, not cheap but worth every penny, 80lb rated (dead weight) ~$2 each. I use the 3rd from bottom (80lb) & large one for large baits (its 1.5" long closed). http://www.manta.com/c/mmgjgkr/duke-snap-tackle-llc Have fun! Al Attachments ---------------- Duke Double Lock Snaps.jpg (73KB - 506 downloads) | ||
| muskie! nut |
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Posts: 2893 Location: Yahara River Chain | Haven't used snaps in a while - weakest link in the chain. Solid rings is the way to go. | ||
| ESOX Maniac |
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Posts: 2754 Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | muskie! nut - 3/15/2016 8:53 AM Haven't used snaps in a while - weakest link in the chain. Solid rings is the way to go. Hey nut! Do you have a video of how you attach them to fishing lures? Have fun! Al | ||
| muskie! nut |
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Posts: 2893 Location: Yahara River Chain | Hey Al here are written directions, follow to the letter........ 1) Get a new bait - add a split ring. 2) Take your split ring pliers and open splint ring 3) Place solid ring in split ring and shimmy it on 4) Cast your butt off and catch fish or in your case, Al hook and lose fish. Did you, Al ever get my pic I texted you? | ||
| Jeremy |
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Posts: 1150 Location: Minnesota. | muskie! nut - 3/15/2016 8:53 AM Haven't used snaps in a while - weakest link in the chain. Solid rings is the way to go. I'll have to admit, this is 100%! I have a buddy who does this, - has a leader connected to each of his baits and simply does a quick re-tie (Jack Crawford knot) each time he changes baits. Not too often either...Suick guy! I don't know why I just don't do this... | ||
| ESOX Maniac |
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Posts: 2754 Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | I spoke with the owner of Duke Snap, he's basically shut down the snap business due to lack of interest from the muskie fishing community. Guys out on St. Lawrence River use the big one's to.. the fundamental problem is they last forever, so guys like them and myself who have our own stash, are not hurting. Due to the fact they last a very long time, its only profitable for him to charge way more than over the counter stuff like Stringease, etc.. If there is enough interest, he would consider restarting production. Retail prices per snap would probably be in $2-$4 range for the larger ones. I need more for my retirement business (Alien Fishing Tackle LLC) when I kick it off this winter, so they may become available again this fall or winter as I use them on my hand tied fluoro leaders, and 30# & 65# single strand shape memory titanium leaders..and I would have them in packs of 4 or 5 also. Have fun! Al Attachments ---------------- Alien Fishing Tackle LLC.jpg (38KB - 501 downloads) | ||
| ESOX Maniac |
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Posts: 2754 Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | muskie! nut - 3/15/2016 10:41 AM Hey Al here are written directions, follow to the letter........ 1) Get a new bait - add a split ring. 2) Take your split ring pliers and open splint ring 3) Place solid ring in split ring and shimmy it on 4) Cast your butt off and catch fish or in your case, Al hook and lose fish. Did you, Al ever get my pic I texted you? Yes, I got it. LOL! I had visions of you with a sub-miniture acetylene welding torch & goggles and multiple bandages on hands, w/fire extinguisher in background!!!!!! So, now split ring is weakest component between line/leader & lure. Makes sense that leader has solid ring. Have you noticed any difference in lure action, either positive or negative? Have fun! Al | ||
| NPike |
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Posts: 612 | muskie! nut - 3/15/2016 11:41 AM Hey Al here are written directions, follow to the letter........ 1) Get a new bait - add a split ring. 2) Take your split ring pliers and open splint ring 3) Place solid ring in split ring and shimmy it on 4) Cast your butt off and catch fish or in your case, Al hook and lose fish. Did you, Al ever get my pic I texted you? Just curious where do you get your solid rings? Thanks, | ||
| muskie! nut |
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Posts: 2893 Location: Yahara River Chain | Got them in two places, Thorne Bros and Moore's Lures. So Al, how many times have you seen a #5 or #7 HD or Wolverine split ring open up? I broke one leader when I hooked a log and tried to pull it out. It opened up in the ball bearing part of the swivel. I couldn't believe it, I would have thought I would have straighten the hook 1st. I also think my action is better on my baits especially the walk the dog style where you just have a loop for the line tie and a solid ring for the bait - NO SWIVEL. The bait jumps around better and attracts the fish. You add that and use your dominate hand on the rod for the action and you'll be calling in those muskies in. | ||
| ESOX Maniac |
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Posts: 2754 Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | NPike - 3/17/2016 5:45 AM Just curious where do you get your solid rings? Thanks, I get mine from Stealth Tackle. http://www.stealthtackle.net/index.php?route=product/category&path=... Yes nut!, I use them on the leaders I make..not everyone uses the stuff we do, e.g., super strength split rings or solid split rings, etc. I have never had a Duke Snap open up, ever and have pulled some pretty big stuff off the bottom.. Have fun! Al Attachments ---------------- Stan Durst Stump Knocker at work!.jpg (62KB - 514 downloads) | ||
| muskie! nut |
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Posts: 2893 Location: Yahara River Chain | What year was that Al? I am surprised that they had cameras back then and in color no less!!!! | ||
| ToddM |
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Posts: 20278 Location: oswego, il | Probably back in the days when those logs were kept not released. | ||
| muskie! nut |
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Posts: 2893 Location: Yahara River Chain | And those catches like many old mounts, went up in smoke. | ||
| ESOX Maniac |
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Posts: 2754 Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | muskie! nut - 3/18/2016 9:08 AM And those catches like many old mounts, went up in smoke. LOL! Sorry ToddM, no bump board photo! You would have had to wait a while for that water logged piece of wood to dry out! It came off the bottom in ~12FOW. I like these kind of photo's for internet! Want to chase that bite? He's holding a lot of weight, he also told me we needed a bigger F&$%*$ net on same trip... Have fun! Al | ||
| BuckeyeMuskie |
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Posts: 58 | Duke snaps are Great Lakes freighter proof! Moving too I may add. | ||
| Brett Erickson |
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Posts: 34 | Talked to Stringease. When Mustad took over, there was definitely a problem. Stringease is back in the driver's seat again and have everything back to normal and we should see the original/stronger design back around May. Brett Erickson | ||
| pklingen |
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Posts: 866 Location: NE Ohio | Brett Erickson - 3/27/2016 11:52 PM Talked to Stringease. When Mustad took over, there was definitely a problem. Stringease is back in the driver's seat again and have everything back to normal and we should see the original/stronger design back around May. Brett Erickson NOW WE'RE TALKING!!!!! a bad situation reversed, i'm lovin it! | ||
| Brett Erickson |
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Posts: 34 | They will be marketed under Stringease--not Mustad. | ||
| ARmuskyaddict |
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Posts: 2026 | I was told last year the snaps from Mustad had a finish problem, not strength. As in the top coat peeled, but it didn't affect the strength of the snap. If I received incorrect info I need some new snaps... | ||
| pklingen |
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Posts: 866 Location: NE Ohio | ARmuskyaddict - 3/29/2016 12:14 AM I was told last year the snaps from Mustad had a finish problem, not strength. As in the top coat peeled, but it didn't affect the strength of the snap. If I received incorrect info I need some new snaps... yes the finish did peel off, but...... i know for a fact that the MUSTAD snaps i have are no where near as difficult when you open or close them as the older original stringese. i have both. that says weaker tensile strength to me. so................ i'll be all over replenishing my supplies once stringese gets back in the saddle. i always talk to the STEALTH TACKLE guy (whos name isn't with me right now) at the shows and always buy from him. he always gives me the no BS info on them. he's been dead on with everything i have observed and read so far. | ||
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