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muskyhunter34
Posted 2/11/2012 11:33 AM (#538067)
Subject: Routering the edges of a bait?




Posts: 291


Location: New Jersey
When you guys are making your baits and routering the edges, are you doing it free hand on a router table? Or is there a way of creating a template and attaching the bait to the template so it comes out perfect?

I am not a bait maker, but i wanted to see if i can try to make some gliders.

Thanks, rob
little one
Posted 2/11/2012 11:52 AM (#538070 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: RE: Routering the edges of a bait?





Posts: 501


Location: S.Wisconsin
Do a youtube search on routering fishing lures. There is one on there that shows how to do it with a router table. I just got a table and tried it for the first time......almost lost a couple fingertips but got the hang of it. Just be careful. I also found it went better if i used a 1/4 roundover bit befor doing the final cut with a 3/8 bit.....but i was a bit scared of the stupid thing after loosing a bit of my finger nail : )

Edited by little one 2/11/2012 11:57 AM
Pikopath
Posted 2/11/2012 1:11 PM (#538079 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?




Posts: 501


Location: Norway
http://yankeedoodoo.blogspot.com/2010/01/tip-from-shop.html
Heres how i do it. Thick plexiglass with some sandpaper to get a grip on the bait.

Michael
CheapTrix
Posted 2/11/2012 8:02 PM (#538133 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?





Posts: 71


Location: Loves Park, IL
Pikopath...that is a great idea.....routers are a scary tool.

Muskyhunter34....here is a video showing how to router a Jake with a router table....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQLwXu6qTwI&context=C3253029ADOEgsTo...

I do mine "free hand on a table"......if you take it slow and be extremely careful, it's not bad. I would not suggest trying it if you are not familiar with using a router and table....it can ugly real quick!

Cheaptrix
Cutt'em all Jack
Posted 2/11/2012 11:16 PM (#538165 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?





Posts: 139


Location: Slippery Rock, PA
The way I hold my baits is I bought 1 inch dowel rod and cut it in half so I have two pieces approx 8 inches each. I then pounded two finishing nails in the ends and cut off the heads of the nails. I then spear the blank with the nails and hold the dowel rods to move the bait. It keeps your hands away from the business end of the bit and works great. I then dab a little putty into the nail holes before clearing. Simple and safe!!
Fish and Whistle
Posted 2/12/2012 12:42 PM (#538220 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?





Posts: 462


Location: Antioch, IL
Great idea Michael, The router table scares the bajeabus out of me. I have been using a pair of long handled vice grips and a 10" length of 1 x 4 for pressure. It it finger safe, but I'm waiting for the day I hit the router bit with the vice grips. Still, router bits are easy to replace, fingers are not. I'm going to give your technique a shot on my next batch.
esox69
Posted 2/12/2012 9:16 PM (#538321 - in reply to #538220)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?




Posts: 802


now for sale-have a ryobi 1hp router and craftsman table, veeeery light use, plus carbide and h.s. bits and adapter plate. email or pm with offers. will not ship, i'm in the nw chicago burbs so can meet within reasonable distances... thanks
steve



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SolarFall
Posted 2/13/2012 11:43 AM (#538447 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?




Posts: 278


Location: Finland
i think the most effective way of not getting your fingers damaged is to use a high quality router cutting bit that can cut effortlessly even the hardest of the hard woods and using a table is a must too. personally i don't use any fancy gadgets and just use my hands while routering the edges, i fell that that way i have a petter feel to the wood and to the router bit and can do the whole thing really fast, so far i've never had an accident, hope it stays that way too :D
Fish With Teeth
Posted 2/26/2012 8:19 AM (#541669 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: RE: Routering the edges of a bait?


I have been a cabinet maker and a carpenter for the the past 35 years and a lure builder for about the last 3 years. I can tell you that routing a medium to small lure blank on a router table while holding it with your hand is VERY dangerous no matter what your expierience level is. I have tried it and will never do it again. I have discovered a way that is much better and it will save you the cost of buying the table for your router along with saving your fingers.
Here is what I did. I went out to the store and bought some of that rubber shelf liner sheet. You know, the kind with the little holes in it. It comes in various colors shapes and sizes. That stuff is very "grippy". I took a piece of that and glued it to a flat board. Then, you secure that board to your work bench. Lay your lure body on the rubber sheet and start routing. You just need to apply a little downward pressure on your work piece and it will never move allowing you to keep both hands on the router. When gluing the shelf liner to the board, make sure you do not get any glue on the working side.
sybe.m.
Posted 3/1/2012 5:46 AM (#542735 - in reply to #541669)
Subject: RE: Routering the edges of a bait?




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Location: holland
Dangeres. no way.
This can happen.
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Cutt'em all Jack
Posted 3/1/2012 9:07 AM (#542766 - in reply to #538067)
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Location: Slippery Rock, PA
OUCH!! At least it was just the tip.
kodiak
Posted 3/1/2012 9:40 AM (#542775 - in reply to #538067)
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Location: Okoboji
dude.........dude...............

i wear miller metal working gloves when i router.

Edited by kodiak 3/1/2012 9:41 AM
GMan
Posted 3/1/2012 10:27 AM (#542784 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?





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Location: Eden Prairie & Pine Island
Who didn't do a "squint grimmace" when that picture rolled up?! Ouch.
kodiak
Posted 3/1/2012 10:48 AM (#542792 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?





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Location: Okoboji
it was bad man i got the tinglys when i saw that
MartinTD
Posted 3/1/2012 11:41 AM (#542802 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?





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Location: NorthCentral WI
Ouch! I'd have to agree with SolarFall on this one though. I prefer holding the piece so you have a better feel. Using a push stick on a straight edge piece is understandable, but I'd be more afraid with a lure that it would get rocketed out from the table. Just BE CAREFUL. Guys with a lot of experience using a router table can be even more at risk because they tend to become complacent and may no longer appreciate the dangers of the tool after they've used it so many times successfully in the past. Your picture should serve as a little reminder to everyone.
muskymandan
Posted 3/3/2012 11:41 AM (#543266 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: RE: Routering the edges of a bait?





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I cant stress enough be careful!! The dang thing took a bite out of me. What happened with me the bait shot out of the router and wammo! Anyone else have any battle scars with the #*^@ router?

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Rowhunter
Posted 3/3/2012 11:51 AM (#543268 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: RE: Routering the edges of a bait?


I posted the same method as Fish with Teeth here back in 07. The rubber mat under the bait with the small router on top is the only way to go. Routers don't play games, ALWAYS be sure of your safety.

Douglas
SolarFall
Posted 3/3/2012 12:02 PM (#543270 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?




Posts: 278


Location: Finland
dang guys seems like i've been quite lucky and never had an accident while routering and i have been messing with them since the age of 10. i've always worn protective gloves and never rush with it even tough i can do it pretty fast now a days i guess its a matter of controlled speed and knowing your own skills while doing it.
-Mikko
uptown
Posted 3/3/2012 1:56 PM (#543303 - in reply to #543270)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?




Posts: 432


Location: mpls
No routers at all for me! Things scare the hell out of me

Everything I make is hand carved and profile sanded on an edge sander. I like the bait to be more convex from top to bottom . Routers don't give me what I am looking for , so it is a win win for my fingers.

That said- I did manage to plunge a plug cutter through the tip of of thumb a couple of weeks ago. It looked like a shark bit off a corner . It went right through my thumbnail and meat, no problem.

Be careful out there.


Joe
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Fish With Teeth
Posted 3/3/2012 4:56 PM (#543334 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: RE: Routering the edges of a bait?


Wearing gloves while using rotating power tools scares me too. I use a laminate trimming router that spins at 27,000 RPM. If your glove gets wound up in that bit it will pull in more than the tip of your finger.
esox911
Posted 3/4/2012 1:59 PM (#543485 - in reply to #543334)
Subject: RE: Routering the edges of a bait?




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A couple of VICE GRIPS with a finish nail locked in the as tight as I can get it----Jab it into the wood at the front and back of the bait--and away you go----Keeps my hands and fingers 4-5 inches above the router bit. Never had a problem with the bait slipping at all----A little filler or epoxy when I install the lip or finish and prep the bait for painting and I am good to go. You guys that do it free hand with fingers on the BAIT are tough. I would never do that--I need my fingers for my job so I cant afford to loose 1 of them or even a part of them. Otherwise I have done it like joe---Just using the edge or belt sander--works fine just takes a little longer-- but it's much safer.

Edited by esox911 3/4/2012 2:01 PM
RiverMan
Posted 3/4/2012 7:22 PM (#543541 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: Re: Routering the edges of a bait?




Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
I have done several thousand freehand without any problems but must admit the router scares me more than any other tool in the shop. It's not so bad with large baits and soft wood but under 5 inches and its dangerous.

Some good suggestions on here for being safe. Be careful.

Jed
Guest
Posted 5/3/2012 10:53 PM (#557790 - in reply to #538067)
Subject: RE: Routering the edges of a bait?


I only have 29 years experience in shop teaching but agree with fish with teeth. That shelf liner is the way to go. Just keep the dust off so it will have good bearing surface. Musky Glenn
esox69
Posted 5/4/2012 2:03 PM (#557906 - in reply to #557790)
Subject: RE: Routering the edges of a bait?




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Router, table, and tools still for sale- previous deal fell thru.
Steve [email protected]
rjbass
Posted 5/4/2012 3:08 PM (#557912 - in reply to #543334)
Subject: RE: Routering the edges of a bait?





Posts: 179


Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan
I have been routering baits for years and always do it freehand on my table, but use my starter pin acting as a fulcrum. Much easier and safer and it eliminates kickbacks, gives you something to push against. Give it a try.

Rod

Edited by rjbass 5/4/2012 3:09 PM
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