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Cowboyhannah
Posted 6/24/2009 2:37 PM (#385397)
Subject: Aches and pains...





Posts: 1455


Location: Kronenwetter, WI
I don't consider myself OLD (42), but for some reason I noticed this season for the first time I'm getting soreness along right side of my back and right shoulder and left wrist toward the end of a longer outing and the following day or two. Stretching before hand seems to help some.

I think part of it is from running 8.5 and 9' rods...to put action onto baits you have to put the rodtip at about 4 oclock and pull/rip/jerk/pop sideways using larger muscle groups. My old Toothtamers (all passed on to the other side) at 7-6 were great lightweight units and I could do most of my action with my wrist, and with a straight down motion. Much less effort involved in that case has been my experience.

I think my right shoulder ache is from the over-sized handle on the Saltist where, again, larger muscle groups come into play. I'm going to have to see if as my conditioning improves and the aches and pains subside as the season progresses, otherwise I may find myself going back to smaller gear or becoming an Advil junkie.
JohnMD
Posted 6/24/2009 2:41 PM (#385399 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: RE: Aches and pains...





Posts: 1769


Location: Algonquin, ILL
Drink lot's of water, It helps to lubricate our old joints

muskyhunter63
Posted 6/24/2009 2:44 PM (#385401 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: RE: Aches and pains...




Posts: 706


Location: Richland Center, WI.
I hear ya! Turned 50 this year and I seem to be using a lot of larger baits to go along with my Ibuprofen, or is that vise versa? Found out I have a bone spur in the right elbow that will require surgery on July 13th so I need to pound the water for the next couple weeks while I still can. Maybe smaller baits and shorter cast might be good therapy for the elbow! Hmmmm?
Ken
itallushrt
Posted 6/24/2009 2:46 PM (#385402 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





Posts: 76


Location: Kentucky
I'm really not trying to be a jerk here, but if you are experiencing aches and pains from fishing (even muskie fishing) then it's probably time to reevaluate your overall health. You already keyed on the fact that stretching helps. Stretching, an adequate fitness program and a healthy diet would probably do wonders.

Edited by itallushrt 6/24/2009 2:48 PM
Cowboyhannah
Posted 6/24/2009 2:48 PM (#385403 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





Posts: 1455


Location: Kronenwetter, WI
I am in relatively good health and run 3-5 miles 4-5 days per week. I think it may be time to start beefing up on the weights, though.
muskiewhored
Posted 6/24/2009 2:50 PM (#385405 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





Location: Oswego, IL
Seriously try to start taking fish oil pills. Helps joints. Also make sure you stay hydrated, and not over hydrated. If you need to downsize DO IT, doesnt always matter the length of your rod! lol
h2os2t
Posted 6/24/2009 4:27 PM (#385416 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: RE: Aches and pains...




Posts: 941


Location: Freedom, WI
Yes fish oil (omega 3 fatty acids, 3 to 4 a day) sometimes your muscles need potassium and magnesium to let them move easier also, sucks getting older.
rldourlain
Posted 6/24/2009 5:16 PM (#385426 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





Posts: 336


Location: Wheeling, IL.
you can try using rod balancing kits on you rods. Worrell showed me this at the PI outing last year and what a difference, less strain on the wrist, forearm and elbow. Probably on the upper back as well. The only place I found them is at Bass Pro for less than 10.00.

And the breakfast of Champions, Ibuprofen always helps!
woodieb8
Posted 6/24/2009 5:23 PM (#385428 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...




Posts: 1529


agh the old age creeping. we are what we eat. excercise helps.after being busted up a few times in auto accidents i only troll. .like most musky fisherman guys your stubborn right... keep fishin
muskie24/7
Posted 6/24/2009 5:41 PM (#385432 - in reply to #385428)
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I'm 44 yrs. old now and I just can't believe how things hurt now days! Like the other guys said, drink alot of water!

Brian
Cast
Posted 6/24/2009 6:26 PM (#385439 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: RE: Aches and pains...


Work out.
Tone
Posted 6/24/2009 7:39 PM (#385451 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: RE: Aches and pains...




Posts: 215


Location: Wisconsin
Lots of good advice so far.

Keep yourself hydrated.

Stretch out before and after (the after will really cut down on the swelling and down time).

Don't 'over do it'.

Don't let pride stop you from buying wrist, elbow, or back supports to wear while you cast.

Stay in shape (easy to say, but can be difficult to do!).

Take your vitamins!

Get the rod weights. (balancing system that was already mentioned) The difference they make can not be described in writing!

Hope this helps
esoxaddict
Posted 6/24/2009 7:49 PM (#385455 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





Posts: 8781


buncha sallies...

JUST FISH! Anybody that tells you that chuckin' baits for 9 hours in the sun on a 95 degree day doesn't take something out of you is flat out full of crap. About the only thing that's ever really done me in (turning 40 later this summer) is staying up until 4:00 drinking gin, and being on the water again at 6:30. Eat well, sleep, stay hydrated... Unless you're younger than 30, stuff is gonna hurt sometimes. Getting old ain't for sissies after all...
rpieske
Posted 6/24/2009 10:51 PM (#385501 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





Posts: 484


Location: St. Louis, MO., Marco Is., FL, Nestor Falls, ON
I'm 66 now and burning cowgirls kicks my butt after a few hours. When I was younger I fished Buchertail 500s and caught lots of big muskies. Now I fish Cowgirls when I'm old. So soon old....so late smart.
Sam Ubl
Posted 6/25/2009 8:46 AM (#385544 - in reply to #385402)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





Location: SE Wisconsin
itallushrt - 6/24/2009 2:46 PM

I'm really not trying to be a jerk here, but if you are experiencing aches and pains from fishing (even muskie fishing) then it's probably time to reevaluate your overall health. You already keyed on the fact that stretching helps. Stretching, an adequate fitness program and a healthy diet would probably do wonders.


I'm 26 today and I get aches in my elbow after fishing a two-dayer for 16 hours of forgetting I had to pee 10 hours earlier! I also have sore joints in my hands after palming my 975 for 6 hours. . . I wouldn't say "overall health" has anything to do with it. I'm healthy and fit, but you would have to lie to yourself to think you won't get any aches or pains from musky fishing. Hell, my ribs get sore under my arm from my rod handle when I'm doing a lot of ripping and twitchin' - so does my wrist. All the workouts in the world aren't going to stop pain in your joints.

That said, I will never complain about it. . . After all, I earned it!

Edited by Sam Ubl 6/25/2009 8:51 AM
welldriller
Posted 6/26/2009 12:19 AM (#385765 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...




Posts: 402


Location: Eagle River, WI
I'm 31 and I can feel myself getting older every year on the water. I have a ganglion cyst inside my left wrist, right on the joint, and it hurts like hell to throw magnum bulldawgs and DCG's. But, I have all winter to get it fixed so, I guess I'll just work through the pain for the rest of this season.
Pointerpride102
Posted 6/26/2009 1:04 AM (#385768 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
23 and I've got a herniated disc in my lower back. I'd gladly trade for some minor aches.
Beaver
Posted 6/26/2009 10:29 PM (#385891 - in reply to #385768)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





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Stretch before and during the day. Many times Sworrall would hear me collapse on the back deck during long days and he would never skip a cast. He knew what was up if there was no screaming.
Stretch before and after, and ice the affected area. After the day, and when riding from spot to spot if possible or anytime that you take a break. Icing your back can keep you up and casting. Pace yourself instead of casting balls out and you'll last longer. Most important, find some guys to fish with that understand your problem and won't give you crap or call you a sissy. It's bad enough to feel bad and feel like you can't pull your weight. You don't need to be ridiculed for something that isn't you fault. You'll feel better when you're fishing in a friendly atmosphere.
Take care of yourself, and see a sports PT person if you can.
Good luck,
Beaver
PSYS
Posted 6/27/2009 4:53 PM (#385940 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





Posts: 1030


Location: APPLETON, WI
I'll be turning 35 in August and aches/pains are all too real. Unfortunately.

I can't stress the importance of staying hydrated. Drink water and lots of it. I think a lot of the time we can get wrapped up in making cast after cast after cast... and before you know it, hours have gone by without ever taking a drink of water. That's a bad habit to get into and sometimes, it can make all the difference in the world.

Good luck!!
esoxaddict
Posted 6/28/2009 2:17 PM (#386037 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





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I found myself out on the water on a hot July day a few years back, casting away, and all of a sudden I noticed that I was just getting hotter and hotter, and I wasn't sweating anymore. I started to feel dizzy and like I might throw up. So I sat down, dunked my shirt in the water, put it back on, tried to catch my breath. It reminded me of some bad hangovers from my younger days. I started to wonder if I was having a heart attack. Then I realized that all I had to drink all day was my morning coffee and a beer. Hadn't peed since 6:30 am. So I drank one of those big gatorates. It took about 10 minutes before I was up casting again, feeling great. Hydration? It's not a myth!! Now, when I fish, I make sure I start the day with WATER. Coffee is fine, but WATER. And if it gets to be 10:00am and I still haven't had to pee? MORE WATER. I can't count the number of days I've been on the water and just start to wilt about 2:00, even feeling physically sick sometimes. I always thought it was the heat, or just that I was getting older, maybe a little too late at the bar the night before. Nope. When you get dryed out enough? Your body just quits working. Next time you find yourself on the water feeling like you aren't going to make it another few hours? Drink a pint of water and see what happens.
heckster
Posted 6/28/2009 6:57 PM (#386078 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: RE: Aches and pains...




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You gotta be tough to grow old! I am no longer tough @ 75.
Cowboyhannah
Posted 6/28/2009 9:49 PM (#386119 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: Re: Aches and pains...





Posts: 1455


Location: Kronenwetter, WI
I feel bad for the guys with injuries....there is a difference between hurt and injured....no injuries here and I hope it stays that way. I'll be putting in some major hours M-W this week and I made a point to put a case of water in the boat.
mskyhntr
Posted 6/28/2009 10:00 PM (#386122 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: RE: Aches and pains...




Posts: 814


Drink lots of water as already mentioned, one other thing that might help with the hand,wrist, and elbow is to start using the foregrip instead of palming the reel when retrieving the dcg and the heavier lures.
Grass
Posted 6/29/2009 12:17 PM (#386200 - in reply to #385397)
Subject: RE: Aches and pains...




Posts: 620


Location: Seymour, WI
My new routine is to drink a Gatorade in the car while I'm on the way to the lake because once I'm on the water I don't usually take the time to drink. Seems to be helping.
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