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trollergreg
Posted 8/30/2007 4:06 PM (#272546)
Subject: mille lacs tourney cheaters.




Posts: 11


Location: Parkers Prairie, MN
Anyone read the article in the outdoor news mag. Long story short, Some walleye guy's happened upon a milk jug a few feet under the water in a remote part of mille lacs. Attached to the jug (which had it's cap siliconed shut) was a 40-45 inch ski attached to a cement brick, kind of like a three way rig. Just curious if anyone else read this. I'm astonished. That's all I can say.

Edited by trollergreg 8/30/2007 4:09 PM
fish4musky1
Posted 8/30/2007 4:34 PM (#272553 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.





Location: Northern Wisconsin
how was the muskie attached?
MuskyMidget
Posted 8/30/2007 4:38 PM (#272554 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.




Posts: 925


I hadn't heard that, but have heard similar stories about fish being tied up on the Eagle River Chain.
esoxaddict
Posted 8/30/2007 4:38 PM (#272555 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: Re: mille lacs tourney cheaters.





Posts: 8863


If this is true, I'm not surprised...

Anytime there is money and ego involved you can expect that someone somewhere will try to find a way to cheat.
Derrys
Posted 8/30/2007 5:09 PM (#272560 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: Re: mille lacs tourney cheaters.


A year ago I was talking to a guy who found the same type of rig. He had seen a strange swirling in the water and went to investigate. He found the same thing, and he knew a tournament was starting a few minutes later, so he eased out of the bay where this was. Sure enough, a short time later a boat went right to that spot. He said he didn't report it at the time, but he wished later that he had. I used to fish a lot of Bass tournaments, and some Muskie tournaments too. I gave it up, and don't miss it at all. I think there is more of this type of thing going on than we know. Probably always will be.
trollergreg
Posted 8/30/2007 5:40 PM (#272561 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.




Posts: 11


Location: Parkers Prairie, MN
The muskie was afixed with a length of cord to it's bottom jaw.
Pointerpride102
Posted 8/30/2007 6:21 PM (#272563 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: Re: mille lacs tourney cheaters.





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Definately not a surprise. It is truly sad what people will do if there is money to be made at the end of the day. Whats next, we have people sign false affidavids about the weight of a fish and claim it as a world record?
Guest
Posted 8/30/2007 9:03 PM (#272590 - in reply to #272563)
Subject: Re: mille lacs tourney cheaters.


I don't know if this story really holds a grain of salt. The outdoor news also posted a false story about guys cheating in a walleye tourney earlier this year. I guess we'll see what happens.
pgaschulz
Posted 8/30/2007 9:11 PM (#272594 - in reply to #272546)
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Posts: 561


Location: Monee, Illinois
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Capt bigfish
Posted 8/31/2007 8:01 AM (#272629 - in reply to #272594)
Subject: Re: mille lacs tourney cheaters.




Posts: 480


If it is true, it's pretty easy to verify the fish and the time registered to know who the alleged cheater is. I hope the tournament officals make a very public announcement and ban the individuals in the future permanently. If not, who wants to fish a tourny where catching cheaters is not enforced? Duff
Hammskie
Posted 8/31/2007 9:01 AM (#272644 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: Re: mille lacs tourney cheaters.





Posts: 697


Location: Minnetonka
All I have to say is... if you're going to cheat, at least WIN the tournament. Haha! It's easier to catch them during tourney hours than to try and pull off a hoax like that. The top anglers in the tourney proved that. Go fish bass if muskies are too difficult. (No offense to bass anglers.)
Muskeez UL
Posted 8/31/2007 9:24 AM (#272645 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.


This stuff used to bother me, but now I figure there is always a chance that someone is going to try to cheat. If they do, oh well, let them live with knowing that they didn't really beat the rest of the field. I don't fish tournamnets for the money, if they need the money that bad they can have it. Someday they'll grow a concience, and if they don't, well, let God sort them out !
-Clay
Dan Urbas
Posted 8/31/2007 11:41 AM (#272681 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.




Posts: 66


Location: Minnesota
Which issue? Like to pick it up.

I have heard from many anglers at launches of cheating and always thought it was just rumors. I hope these are still rumors.

Dan
Madmanmusky
Posted 8/31/2007 11:59 AM (#272687 - in reply to #272681)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.




Posts: 344


Location: Musky Country
Oct. 27th issue.

Edited by Madmanmusky 8/31/2007 12:52 PM
Guest
Posted 8/31/2007 12:07 PM (#272690 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.


if BASS guys cheat for 100s of thousands of dollars with tons of judges dont be suprised if muskie guys cheat for 20k or less with little judge presence or onlooker boats.
jclymer
Posted 8/31/2007 12:34 PM (#272697 - in reply to #272690)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.


In any competition there is going to be cheaters... I heard rumors about snagged fish on Vermillion, and I am sure fish have been snagged in the sand of Mille Lacs... This does seem to be a little extreme if this story pans out, but it should be of no surprise... No matter what you do, if someone wants to cheat, they will figure out ways too cheat.. Seems like you may want to find a better method of cheating than to put a milk jug out, pretty obviuos to anyone who may drive by..
B420
Posted 8/31/2007 12:45 PM (#272700 - in reply to #272697)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.




Posts: 382


It was listed in the "Cuffs and Collars" section which are reports from the MDNR Conservation officers. It's my favorite section of the paper by far. I love the way they "sensationalize" the stories a bit.
Guest
Posted 8/31/2007 1:29 PM (#272705 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.


I read that the milk jug was submearged and the lid had silocone around it.
Good Luck ,
Dave
Shep
Posted 8/31/2007 2:50 PM (#272716 - in reply to #272705)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.





Posts: 5874


"In any competition there is going to be cheaters"

Now that might be a liitle bit extreme. But the POTENTIAL for cheaters will be there. If I was ever inor near a tourney, and I saw suspect behavior, I would contact the tourney officials. I think any tourney that has large payouts, should also have in it's rules, a statement, and the real possibilty, that lie detectors may be required.

That said, I don't think every tourney has cheaters. But there are those that will strecth the rules, ignore some rules, etc. The person finding this jug should have reported it to the DNR, or the local authorities. I'm sure they would have loved to catch somebody in the act of committing felony fraud. I think there's a pretty good penalty for that.
Sackett
Posted 8/31/2007 3:11 PM (#272722 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: RE: mille lacs tourney cheaters.




Posts: 100


Location: Bemidji/Cass Lake
I saw a piece on bass cheaters on the news once. Guys submerge fish in large crates in a secure location. Absolute crap move. Anybody doing that sort of stuff should take one to the face. It's amazing really. Competition is fun in fishing, and it's a shame that some people forget why they like to fish in the first place.
Later
Sackett
sworrall
Posted 8/31/2007 4:10 PM (#272733 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: Re: mille lacs tourney cheaters.





Posts: 32955


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
If you are going to make a direct reference and an accusation of foul play to a specific event you had better have absolute proof. If not, keep it to yourself.
Derrys
Posted 8/31/2007 4:30 PM (#272736 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: Re: mille lacs tourney cheaters.


A lady in California was busted for having a two-pound diving sinker in the belly of a huge Bass she caught. I suppose she knew that she was close to the World Record, and made a judgement call. It didn't pan out. Strange as it sounds, she is still listed as having caught one of the largest 25 Largemouth Bass ever taken. They simply removed the weight and re-weighed the fish.
husky_jerk
Posted 8/31/2007 4:30 PM (#272737 - in reply to #272733)
Subject: Re: mille lacs tourney cheaters.




Posts: 305


Location: Illinois
The fact that a ski was caught on a shallow reef in broad daylight doesn't suprise me in the least. Vertical jigging the Fox Chain with J Mac jigs is not something I would consider but somebody did it and caught fish. The point is,don't lump the guys who catch fish consistently, or in ways you wouldn't have considered, in the same boat with cheaters.


This was in response to a post that has since been deleted

Edited by husky_jerk 8/31/2007 4:33 PM
sworrall
Posted 8/31/2007 4:44 PM (#272745 - in reply to #272546)
Subject: Re: mille lacs tourney cheaters.





Posts: 32955


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Thank HJ, and with that...
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