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Brozz88
Posted 2/11/2014 7:35 AM (#690844)
Subject: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




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Looking at picking up a new 9' one piece Ti rod for my birthday comin up in April and need a little help choosing power. I'll be throwing big tens, mag dawgs,12" jakes and perchbaits, big hardheads and other large cranks. I would also like to use it to troll these same lures and even some bigger like the 13" believers and plows. Do you guys think the xheavy should handle this or should I go xxheavy, or is that a little too stiff for trolling ? Thanks guys
Cal
Posted 2/11/2014 8:37 AM (#690856 - in reply to #690844)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?





Posts: 177


Location: ON
XXH

Ronix
Posted 2/11/2014 8:50 AM (#690859 - in reply to #690856)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




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Cal - 2/11/2014 9:37 AM

XXH



+1
cast4musky
Posted 2/11/2014 8:52 AM (#690860 - in reply to #690844)
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Go xxheavy, If you want a Big Lure Rod, will still troll fine.....But if you were looking to throw 10's and 10" jakes and mag dawgs, and have a much more versatility then the XH is the rod to get...I Love the XH
curleytail
Posted 2/11/2014 12:09 PM (#690874 - in reply to #690844)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




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Location: Hayward, WI
I think I'd get the XXH. I have both rods you are talking about, and the XH is perfect for double 10's up to 8 oz baits like Mag Dawgs and the "large" Hardhead (the 8 oz one, not the Pounder sized Buckethead).

I've thrown the 16 oz Buckethead and Pounders on my XH but it's a little too much for that rod and I have to carefully lob the heaviest baits.

I use my XH a LOT, I think it's very versatile. However, the XXH has a softer tip than the rating might lead you to believe, and handles lighter baits OK.

Keep in mind though, any time you want to cast 3 oz Cowgirls AND Pounder sized baits on the same rod you'll be compromising somewhere, so I'd take a look at what you plan to do the most and let that guide your decision.

Tucker
bowhunter29
Posted 2/11/2014 1:34 PM (#690896 - in reply to #690844)
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Location: South-Central PA
XXH!

jeremy
CU301DSV
Posted 2/11/2014 2:04 PM (#690909 - in reply to #690844)
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Posts: 906


Location: Canada
XXH

I used mine last season as a backup trolling rod. Like mentioned above it has a softer tip than the XXH rating suggests.
IAJustin
Posted 2/11/2014 2:20 PM (#690913 - in reply to #690909)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




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I have two of each MH, XH and XXH in 9' one piece....For Blades/10's and ripping 10" jakes I'd reach for the XH ,almost every time. I basically just use my XXH's for pounders & dussa's - I love the XXH for rubber (for mags I use the XH and XXH about equally, like the XXH on big fish water, no wimpy hooksets with rubber) ..hate the XXH for blades, even 13's....the rod doesn't load enough in the cast for my preference.
Lucky Craft Man
Posted 2/11/2014 8:38 PM (#691019 - in reply to #690913)
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IAJustin - 2/11/2014 2:20 PM

I have two of each MH, XH and XXH in 9' one piece....For Blades/10's and ripping 10" jakes I'd reach for the XH ,almost every time. I basically just use my XXH's for pounders & dussa's - I love the XXH for rubber (for mags I use the XH and XXH about equally, like the XXH on big fish water, no wimpy hooksets with rubber) ..hate the XXH for blades, even 13's....the rod doesn't load enough in the cast for my preference.


These are my sentiments exactly. The XXH doesn't load well enough on the cast for blades, but fishes Pounders and other big rubber well. If you can swing it, I would honestly get both. You will get plenty of use out of them both.
FAT-SKI
Posted 2/11/2014 11:02 PM (#691067 - in reply to #690856)
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If I could go back and re-choose. I would get the XXH. Not because the XH isin't a good rod. But having a stiffer tip on the 8 helps a ton. Plus it still flings the crap out of most things you can throw with it, the XH is better for blades (casting wise)

I would actually like to trade out my XH for the XXH but buying a new rod just isin't in the cards. regardless of how inexpensive they are.

Get the XXH
miket55
Posted 2/11/2014 11:29 PM (#691070 - in reply to #691067)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




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Location: E. Tenn
FAT-SKI - 2/12/2014 12:02 AM

If I could go back and re-choose. I would get the XXH. Not because the XH isin't a good rod. But having a stiffer tip on the 8 helps a ton. Plus it still flings the crap out of most things you can throw with it, the XH is better for blades (casting wise)

Get the XXH


+1

While reading this thread, that was pretty much the reply I had in mind..
Brozz88
Posted 2/12/2014 8:59 AM (#691105 - in reply to #691070)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




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Thanks to all. I'm going with a xxheavy,I was just alittle concerned it would be to stiff for anything but the biggest stuff. But that dosent sound to be an issue now. I already have an 8'10"heavy custom x that will be paired with a revo toro 5.4 for my dedicated blade rod,so this Ti rod will be mostly for chucking and trolling the big cranks I guess. Thanks agiain
dae06
Posted 2/12/2014 9:37 AM (#691118 - in reply to #691105)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




Wow, I hope I won't regret buying the TI xh 9' split grip. It should be at my house today!! It's already in my signature.
curleytail
Posted 2/12/2014 12:08 PM (#691152 - in reply to #691118)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




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Location: Hayward, WI
dae06 - 2/12/2014 9:37 AM

Wow, I hope I won't regret buying the TI xh 9' split grip. It should be at my house today!! It's already in my signature. ;-)


My 9' TI XH Split grip is my most used rod. It does just about everything I need it to, but is on the light side for Pounder sized baits. I think you'll like it.

Tucker
muskie tamer
Posted 2/12/2014 12:12 PM (#691153 - in reply to #690844)
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Location: Waconia,MN
XXH! Great for mag dawgs and hardheads.
IAJustin
Posted 2/12/2014 7:47 PM (#691259 - in reply to #691067)
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PIKEMASTER
Posted 2/12/2014 10:07 PM (#691291 - in reply to #690844)
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
I would go with the XH
I like a softer tip keeps the fish on better when fighting a hooked fish. Also will cast DCG a mile without backlashing.
XXH for baits over 8OZ and up.
IAJustin
Posted 2/12/2014 10:21 PM (#691294 - in reply to #691291)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




Posts: 2012


Good point PIKEMASTER, I always throw the lightest action softest tip rods I can get away with for the baits I'm throwing....I'd much rather have a 50lber hooked on my MH 9' vs. my XXH.... the big bait craze has caused us to be so over gunned in rods, as far as fighting a muskie... its crazy, I use softer tip rods fighting 200lb Marlin
Zib
Posted 2/12/2014 10:38 PM (#691298 - in reply to #691291)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?





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Location: Detroit River

PIKEMASTER - 2/12/2014 11:07 PM I would go with the XH I like a softer tip keeps the fish on better when fighting a hooked fish. Also will cast DCG a mile without backlashing. XXH for baits over 8OZ and up.

 

I agree. You'll lose more fish using the XXH.

CASTING55
Posted 2/14/2014 8:17 AM (#691534 - in reply to #691298)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




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Location: N.FIB
I have the 2 piece xh and throw 10`s and mag dawgs with it,also 10 jakes and similar lures but pounders no or cranks over 10in no.I love it for blades and mag dawgs
esoxone
Posted 2/14/2014 8:50 AM (#691542 - in reply to #690844)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




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Buy them both !!!

esoxone
bigdogg2278
Posted 2/14/2014 8:53 AM (#691544 - in reply to #690844)
Subject: Re: Ti rod help, xheavy or xx heavy ?




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I got a XH I like the softer end
waterwolfhunter
Posted 2/14/2014 9:02 AM (#691546 - in reply to #690844)
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Location: Lake St. Clair
I have 2 XXH and cant say a bad thing about them. Great rods for sure. James is great to deal with and I really enjoy doing business with someone who "gets it" I throw pounders and D10's from June until September and these rods are workhorses. I even use them in the spring throwing 8 oz swimbaits and really like them for that application as well. IMO they are everything a St Croix is as far a ability and way more economical! TI Rods are great and you wont be disappointed!!
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