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Jimmy_S
Posted 10/15/2014 11:45 AM (#735118)
Subject: 18" suckers too big?





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I have an 18" sucker (19" with tail pinch :P ). I am not too worried about a muskie hitting an 18" sucker... But I am afraid it might make a good hookset more difficult. It has been several years since I have used suckers, but I had really good luck with smaller ones around 12". What is the biggest sucker you have used successfully?
ToddM
Posted 10/15/2014 11:55 AM (#735120 - in reply to #735118)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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Location: oswego, il
Big suckers get attention but hooksets become the issue especially when a smaller fish grab it. Nothing lime seening a 30" musky chomping your giant sucker. Use two hooks space them on each side one forward of the other and hopefully one will get in the fish's mouth.
Mojo1269
Posted 10/15/2014 12:17 PM (#735123 - in reply to #735120)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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Not at all....only thing to consider is if your quick strike rig can handle a sucker that big. I make my own as I think most of the comemrically made ones have too small of hooks. I would want a 5/0 stuck in the side of a minnow that big and I would want to ensure the hooks were place far enough back on the minnow that they are where you want them not oo far forward...
Jimbo
Posted 10/15/2014 1:20 PM (#735135 - in reply to #735118)
Subject: RE: 18" suckers too big?





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NO!
tcbetka
Posted 10/15/2014 2:20 PM (#735149 - in reply to #735118)
Subject: RE: 18" suckers too big?




Location: Green Bay, WI
Jimmy_S - 10/15/2014 11:45 AM

I have an 18" sucker (19" with tail pinch :P ). SNIP...


LOL at the tail pinch!

TB
Junkman
Posted 10/15/2014 2:59 PM (#735159 - in reply to #735149)
Subject: RE: 18" suckers too big?




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I don't think you'd be too wild using even a 7-0 treble on a sucker that long, probably two of them. I mostly use just one treble because I'll trade bites for missed fish all the time....but not on an 18" bait. I tie the hooks on every conceivable length of line and then select the one for the sucker that comes out of the pail. I put the rubber band through the snout, attach it to my leader, and then select the exact hook set-up so the hook is exactly where I want it on the sucker (usually 2/3 back) then add a second if required...or I lose my confidence. Any hook size can be the one you want....might as well have them!
Mojo1269
Posted 10/15/2014 3:53 PM (#735166 - in reply to #735159)
Subject: RE: 18" suckers too big?





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The Junk man nailed it...I do much of the same. I have a 3750 with rigs going up in 1 inch increments. I dont use rubberbands, I bend .035 gauge wire but it all works about the same. I use a Propane plumbing torch to heat up hooks to bend them for rigs...works like buttah'

Edited by Mojo1269 10/15/2014 3:54 PM
Schultz345
Posted 10/15/2014 5:29 PM (#735173 - in reply to #735118)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?




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the bigger the better, but the previous comments are correct. hooksets become an issue with the big suckers. we're hitting about 75% of sucker bites this year by quickly figuring out which way the fish is facing and ripping in the opposite direction like our lives depend on it. sometimes they just don't have a hook in their mouth, unfortunately.
Jeff78
Posted 10/15/2014 5:33 PM (#735174 - in reply to #735118)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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Location: central Wisconsin
My PB came on a 22" sucker.
Jimmy_S
Posted 10/15/2014 8:18 PM (#735189 - in reply to #735118)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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Wow, 22". That makes 18" not seem so huge.
Jeff78
Posted 10/15/2014 8:41 PM (#735196 - in reply to #735189)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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Location: central Wisconsin
Jimmy_S - 10/15/2014 8:18 PM

Wow, 22". That makes 18" not seem so huge.


No tail pinch either.
Plumpers1
Posted 10/15/2014 8:55 PM (#735201 - in reply to #735118)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?




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Not unheard of to use suckers over 22" if you can legally find them. I prefer shumway clip-n-gos normally but extra large suckers (over 20") may require custom rigs. Have experimented with larger hooks but smaller (2/0) works better for me probably due to the finer points piercing much better. Just make sure your drag isn't cranked down if using lighter hooks because they will bend quickly when a large fish runs hard.
PHISHMAN
Posted 10/16/2014 5:50 AM (#735233 - in reply to #735118)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?




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Use rubberbands as $15 can go swimming away real fast if the hooks aren't properly pierced through the sides. If you pierce just below the skin and bring the barb back through should not have an issue with hooks coming out and the smaller the hook your more likely to prevent the hooks from puncturing vitals of the sucker so they live longer and are more squirmy in the water.

Edited by PHISHMAN 10/16/2014 6:12 AM
ToddM
Posted 10/16/2014 6:54 AM (#735236 - in reply to #735118)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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Location: oswego, il
Can you post a picture of your sucker? I am sure I speak for everyone when I say this, we question the size. Lets see a pic so we can blast the hell out of your 18" claim!

Edited by ToddM 10/16/2014 6:55 AM
Mojo1269
Posted 10/16/2014 7:47 AM (#735239 - in reply to #735236)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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ToddM - 10/16/2014 6:54 AM

Can you post a picture of your sucker? I am sure I speak for everyone when I say this, we question the size. Lets see a pic so we can blast the hell out of your 18" claim!


Best post of the year... LMFAO....
Jimmy_S
Posted 10/16/2014 8:05 AM (#735242 - in reply to #735236)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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ToddM - 10/16/2014 6:54 AM

Can you post a picture of your sucker? I am sure I speak for everyone when I say this, we question the size. Lets see a pic so we can blast the hell out of your 18" claim!


Ok, I'll admit it... I didn't use a bump board...
14ledo81
Posted 10/16/2014 8:30 AM (#735252 - in reply to #735242)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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Location: Ashland WI
How about this one? With a tail squeeze, it should easily push over 20...


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Brad P
Posted 10/16/2014 8:32 AM (#735253 - in reply to #735252)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?




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I have a rig for that.

I tie my own rigs and for pig minnows of that size I use 3551 7/0. Per the above, having multiple sizes is worth the time investment.

Edited by Brad P 10/16/2014 8:36 AM
larryc
Posted 10/16/2014 9:08 AM (#735263 - in reply to #735252)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?




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14ledo81 - 10/16/2014 9:30 AM

How about this one? With a tail squeeze, it should easily push over 20...



No way !! Digital calipers and analog photo analysis prove 16.75 tops with less than 1% probability of error.
Junkman
Posted 10/16/2014 9:28 AM (#735264 - in reply to #735118)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?




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The biggest sucker is the one who's still reading........ugh! I guess that's me...
ToddM
Posted 10/16/2014 1:19 PM (#735298 - in reply to #735252)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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Location: oswego, il
14ledo81 - 10/16/2014 8:30 AM

How about this one? With a tail squeeze, it should easily push over 20...


VERTICAL HOLD!!!!!!!!! what the hell!!!!!!!!!!!
14ledo81
Posted 10/16/2014 1:37 PM (#735299 - in reply to #735298)
Subject: Re: 18" suckers too big?





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Location: Ashland WI
ToddM - 10/16/2014 1:19 PM

14ledo81 - 10/16/2014 8:30 AM

How about this one? With a tail squeeze, it should easily push over 20...


VERTICAL HOLD!!!!!!!!! what the hell!!!!!!!!!!!


Rats... I knew someone was going to bust me on that.
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