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What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True
OptionResults
Pike21 Votes - [21.43%]
Hybrid Muskie29 Votes - [29.59%]
True Muskie48 Votes - [48.98%]

Message Subject: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True
d2bucktail
Posted 10/22/2008 12:36 PM (#341901)
Subject: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True




Posts: 238


A friend send me a pic of her brother with his first big fish. It looked to be around 40 inches (plus or minus). The fish was well proportioned. Without revealing how the side of the fish looked, please study the attached pic showing the tail of the fish. Then select the poll option that matches what you feel the fish is. I'll show the pic of the whole fish once one response gets to 25.

For the purposes of this poll, clear, barred, and spotted phase should be considered true muskies.

Photo has been posted in a reply from me below...


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VMS
Posted 10/22/2008 12:39 PM (#341902 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 3507


Location: Elk River, Minnesota		ummm....what pic?

muskie! nut
Posted 10/22/2008 12:40 PM (#341903 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 2894


Location: Yahara River Chain		Maybe its a polar muskie or pike
The Dogger
Posted 10/22/2008 12:42 PM (#341904 - in reply to #341903)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True




Posts: 215


Location: Twin Cities		Its a Casperski
muskie! nut
Posted 10/22/2008 12:44 PM (#341905 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 2894


Location: Yahara River Chain		And just in time for Halloween
Jimbo
Posted 10/22/2008 12:46 PM (#341907 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: RE: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 222


Who put the cloaking device onto the picture. Captain Kirk?
lambeau
Posted 10/22/2008 12:50 PM (#341909 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True


i think it's a "leopard"...
d2bucktail
Posted 10/22/2008 1:23 PM (#341917 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True




Posts: 238


Funny, guys. And you wonder why some people don't post here. I had checked the box that suggested I'd be allowed to "attach a file after posting". Well, it posted but failed to let me attach the pic. I attached it now by editing my original post. Is this a feature?
Cowboyhannah
Posted 10/22/2008 4:11 PM (#341945 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 1460


Location: Kronenwetter, WI		Mermaid-Muskies have been rarely seen, much less photographed. Fewer than 1% of all esocids meet the technical criteria for this categorization. Can't wait to see the rest of her!
ILmuskie
Posted 10/22/2008 4:54 PM (#341959 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 371


Location: Dixon, IL		It might be tricky!

Look like a big old Channel Catfish!.....
It suppose to be pure musky, pike or hybrid musky.....

My guess is hybrid musky....musky's tail is more point. Pike same as hybrid but more black spots....

Let's me seeeeee what's it?
Gander Mt Guide
Posted 10/22/2008 5:08 PM (#341962 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 2515


Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI		Rainbow Trout
PIKEMASTER
Posted 10/22/2008 5:10 PM (#341964 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: RE: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160		HYBRID BLUEGILL
Reelwise
Posted 10/22/2008 5:31 PM (#341965 - in reply to #341964)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True




Posts: 1636


If its a ski I'd go with true. They dont always have forked tails
Pointerpride102
Posted 10/22/2008 6:02 PM (#341972 - in reply to #341965)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert		What is the purpose of this? The picture is extremely pixilated, colors are washed and the lighting seems to be terrible. Do I win something if I'm correct?
ShaneW
Posted 10/22/2008 7:11 PM (#341985 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True




Posts: 619


Location: Verona, WI		Channel cat
Mr Musky
Posted 10/22/2008 8:47 PM (#341999 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 999


Monarch Butterfly
d2bucktail
Posted 10/22/2008 8:58 PM (#342000 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: RE: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True




Posts: 238


(Please, no comments on the vertical hold - we already know a more horizontal hold is preferred.)

Poll results before posting the complete pic

16 for Pike
18 for Hybrid
28 for True

What struck me when I saw the attached pic is the rounded tail on what appears to be a clear phased true muskie. I'm no biologist, so maybe this isn't all that rare, but the pointed tail is what I've always heard and read is the distinguishing feature of a true muskie. Could this be clear phased hybrid? Anyone with a fish biology background care to share your knowledge? Thanks for participating in this poll.

(Sorry for the quality of the original tail pic. I blew it up a bit because when it was small it was hard to see.)

Edited by d2bucktail 10/22/2008 9:10 PM



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MuskieTom
Posted 10/22/2008 10:43 PM (#342025 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True




Posts: 146


Location: where the fish are...		ugly natural
esox50
Posted 10/22/2008 11:14 PM (#342026 - in reply to #342025)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 2024


No such thing as a "clear phased tiger." As with anything in nature, there are no hard and fasts and there is a tremendous amount of variation. Sure, one quick easy way of IDing a muskie from a pike or tiger is the pointed tail, but the fact that the tips of the tail don't form tight 45 degree angles doesn't mean it's not a muskie. Look at the tiger thread in the Muskie Research forum and you'll see that all those hybrids have VERY rounded fins, much more round than that in your photo. If you want to get super technical, count the mandibular-pores on the lower jaw (6-9 for muskies, 5-7 for tigers, pike 5 or less).

More often than not, hybrids are GLARINGLY obvious.
Pointerpride102
Posted 10/22/2008 11:47 PM (#342029 - in reply to #342026)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
esox50 - 10/22/2008 11:14 PM
If you want to get super technical, count the mandibular-pores on the lower jaw (6-9 for muskies, 5-7 for tigers, pike 5 or less).

More often than not, hybrids are GLARINGLY obvious.


Bingo. Not really even super technical, just counting.
SpencerBerman
Posted 10/23/2008 12:56 AM (#342032 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True




Posts: 202


I have to say its a real ski but like pointerpide said that picture is really hard to tell
jonnysled
Posted 10/23/2008 7:10 AM (#342036 - in reply to #341901)
Subject: Re: What is it? Pike, Hibrid, or True





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.		yup, that's a muskie
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