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| Has anyone had a chance to try the new New St Croix Premier 9' 2pc rods? How do you like it? I went with PM90HF2, can't wait to see how it handles. |
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| They finally went with a 16" rear handle, that is appealing. |
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| Checked them out last night and they look nice. Might be the next rod I get. |
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| Judging by the few responses though, doesn't seem to be much hype around these rods as I expected. Are they not all what they are cracked up to be? |
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Location: Wisconsin | For me, no interest in any 2 pc rod |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | Clammer - 1/30/2014 5:06 PM
For me, no interest in any 2 pc rod
me either. if it were a 9' 1 pc rod, i would be much more interested. |
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| i was very interested in them at first...I like the idea of st croix offering a 9'0 XH model for a cheaper than LT price with an extended handle but they weigh like 18 oz or so |
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Location: South-Central PA | One of my suppliers has the 2-piece Premier blanks listed in their catalog with specs. The catalog arrived about a month ago. I found this interesting as I had just gotten off the phone with St Croix a few days earlier and was told they weren't sure if they were going to be selling these blanks- I'm hoping they will!!! At any rate, the blanks weights are listed at 8.6oz for the MH, 9oz for the H and 9.8oz for the XH. That seems about right for a butt-jointed two-piece blank. The Big Nasty comes in at 6.9oz, Big Dawg at 5.8 and the Premier 8'6"XH at 6.8oz. The weights of these factory rods are 11.5oz, 10.2oz and 10.3oz (Mojo split grip) respectively. Taking these known weights into consideration, the factory two-piece Premiers should be in the 13.5-14.5oz range.
They will obviously be heavier rods, but the added weight will be in the butt section which will make it much less noticeable. This same butt-joint technology is used all the time for popping rods in saltwater that are used to catch tuna in the 100-200lb range. I have no double it will hold up just fine to any musky that swims.
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| bowhunter29
jeremy
That's very reassuring, but why then would St.Croix post the specs @17.5oz? |
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Location: Smith Creek | vpsaline - 1/30/2014 4:50 PM
Judging by the few responses though, doesn't seem to be much hype around these rods as I expected. Are they not all what they are cracked up to be?
I think the lag in the time from introduction (August) to production (December)caused this. I've played with them a bit but haven't actually used one for a day. Feel lighter than the listed weight, and heavier in power than corresponding LT's. |
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Location: South-Central PA | vpsaline - 1/31/2014 12:06 PM
bowhunter29
jeremy
That's very reassuring, but why then would St.Croix post the specs @17.5oz?
I was taking a guess. I'm wondering how accurate the specs were in my suppliers catalog. If the blanks weigh 9oz, it would take 9 oz to get them to 18oz. That's a ton of weight to add when you consider the finished weights of the Nasty, Big Dawg, etc. I'm guessing the catalog specs from my supplier on the blanks are wrong. The addition of the grips, guides, thread and epoxy shouldn't be more than 4-5oz which means the true weight of the blanks would be more like 13-14oz. That's one heavy blank!
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| I have custom 2 piece rods I use for everything except big rubber, they perform on par with any 1 piece rod and travel great. they have even made some trips for tuna/tarpon as well:-) The premier extra heavy looks interesting, just curious on the weight. Going to see if it can be built lighter, that would keep me totally 2 piece. Would be nice. BR |
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| One of the two catalogs is wrong then. I think the naked blank catalog numbers make more sense no? I hope so... |
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Location: South-Central PA | vpsaline - 1/31/2014 12:52 PM
One of the two catalogs is wrong then. I think the naked blank catalog numbers make more sense no? I hope so...
Agreed. I think the blank specs make sense, the numbers come from St. Croix then the supplier puts them in the catalog. On the other hand, I have a hard time believing that St Croix made an error listing the finished rod weights on their website.
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| Has anybody fished with it, or even held it with a reel on it, maybee its a bit heavy but if it lies in good ballance when fishing i wouldn,t care about the weight. |
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| I got 2 of them. They are awesome |
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Location: Planet Meltdown | Toothycritter88 - is the listed weight on the website correct? |
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| brianT - 2/1/2014 9:48 AM
Toothycritter88 - is the listed weight on the website correct?
I'm getting mine very soon, I can compare weight to XH 2013 2pc compre. How much does the compre weigh? |
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| So I finally got the SC. The rod does feel lighter and more balanced then the old compre models. It also feels faster/heavier then the compre XH even if the SC is only 'Heavy'. Bassically how I would expect the XXH compre to feel. Feels like this could cast pounders to be honest.
One thing that is striking about the rod is that the 'trigger' is not palmed the same way as most rods that I'm used to. You actually need to rest the outside of your pinky on the trigger. I wasn't used to it but it does feel comfortable once you 'get it'. |
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Location: Planet Meltdown | If anyone can get an accurate weight on the two piece SC rod I would highly appreciate it. Thanks. |
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