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Stein
Posted 8/26/2009 2:12 PM (#396161)
Subject: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Posts: 199


Location: Nebraska

I have gone to pretty much floro across the board, except for jerkbaits which still get a single strand.

 What leader is better for 'dawgs?  It seems like single strands seem to foul up when casting.  Are floros the better choice?  I think some of it is my casting technique and I get some bait tumbling on the cast.

 Two more weeks unitl our annual Minaki trip!

Will Schultz
Posted 8/26/2009 2:18 PM (#396164 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Since I seem to use jaw spreaders more often w/ dawgs (even pounders) than any other lure I only fish them w/ wire.
tuffy1
Posted 8/26/2009 3:21 PM (#396182 - in reply to #396164)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Posts: 3240


Location: Racine, Wi
I think in this case, you're going to get quite a few different answers. Personally, I use 130# floro for my dawgs (all sizes). Like Will said, they will get inhaled or eaten head first, but (knock on wood), to this day, I haven't been bitten off on a dawg yet.

Make sure to check your floro if you use it though, because if a fish hits and doesn't get hooks, or if you just got one, you don't want to throw a leader that's all nicked up.

Edited by tuffy1 8/26/2009 3:22 PM
T_Musky
Posted 8/26/2009 3:22 PM (#396183 - in reply to #396164)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?




Posts: 25


I"ve had no problems using 130# fluoro stealth leaders with the regular dawgs. Just change the stringease snaps when they look like they need to be replaced. Good luck.
BNelson
Posted 8/26/2009 3:24 PM (#396184 - in reply to #396182)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Location: Contrarian Island
180 lb fluoro, no failures.
As Joel says, just keep an eye on it for nicks...if you get one simply switch it and keep the components to use on another leader.
both work though...whatever you like
Stealth is a great leader you can buy in most stores these days.
Stein
Posted 8/26/2009 3:39 PM (#396188 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Posts: 199


Location: Nebraska
Yes, I use Stealth floros exclusively now, 130 lb. I'll give them a try on the dawgs. If nothing else, they won't kink up the leader like the singles when they fouled and you pull the bait in sideways. It's funny, you always know when they are fouled when they hit the water. You can feel them hit, then pull when they dive straight into the water and you know you just wasted a cast.

Edited by Stein 8/26/2009 3:40 PM
thedude
Posted 8/26/2009 3:51 PM (#396193 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?




Posts: 469


Location: Downers Grove, IL
"It's funny, you always know when they are fouled when they hit the water. You can feel them hit, then pull when they dive straight into the water and you know you just wasted a cast."

DAWG BALL!!!!

Edited by thedude 8/26/2009 3:52 PM
50"skie
Posted 8/26/2009 3:58 PM (#396195 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Posts: 425


Floro Stealth leaders
Bulldawg
Posted 8/26/2009 4:22 PM (#396201 - in reply to #396188)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?


Stein - 8/26/2009 3:39 PM

It's funny, you always know when they are fouled when they hit the water. You can feel them hit, then pull when they dive straight into the water and you know you just wasted a cast.


wasted cast? Biggest fish ive caught on a bulldawg came on a "dawgball"

Caught a few on "Dawgsalad" as well

Great Bait !
Will Schultz
Posted 8/26/2009 4:31 PM (#396202 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Yep, when I get lazy and don't cast them the right way it happens. If/when the hooks get tangled on the leader pull the bait w/ rod straight up then give it complete slack on the fall and give it a couple taps on the way down, they'll come unhooked. If it doesn't work the first time repeat. I'm able to make this work about 90% of the time.
Stein
Posted 8/26/2009 4:46 PM (#396207 - in reply to #396202)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Posts: 199


Location: Nebraska
/\  Thanks.  Will try that the next time.
shotgunlew
Posted 8/26/2009 5:29 PM (#396214 - in reply to #396202)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Posts: 254


Location: In the cabbage
Thats what I do! Works almost everytime!



Will Schultz - 8/26/2009 4:31 PM

Yep, when I get lazy and don't cast them the right way it happens. If/when the hooks get tangled on the leader pull the bait w/ rod straight up then give it complete slack on the fall and give it a couple taps on the way down, they'll come unhooked. If it doesn't work the first time repeat. I'm able to make this work about 90% of the time.
Will Schultz
Posted 8/26/2009 6:50 PM (#396225 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
60% of the time it works, every time.
archerynut36
Posted 8/26/2009 7:16 PM (#396232 - in reply to #396225)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Posts: 1887


Location: syracuse indiana
Will Schultz - 8/26/2009 6:50 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
60% of the time it works, every time. ;)

good line from a good movie
bill

Edited by archerynut36 8/26/2009 7:21 PM
Dirt Esox
Posted 8/26/2009 8:51 PM (#396240 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?




Posts: 457


Location: Minneconia
The dawg ball is the first step....add slow musky activity and heat....."dawg rage". About the 5th or 6th dawg ball and it's getting ghost ridden into the nearest rock wall:)
Stein
Posted 8/26/2009 8:58 PM (#396242 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Posts: 199


Location: Nebraska
LOL, at least I now know it's not just me then! Still switching to floro.
Tim Schmitz
Posted 8/26/2009 9:30 PM (#396252 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?




Posts: 540


Location: MN
I thought I was the olny one that said dawg ball but dawg rage is a new one. Oh I use 130 stealth.
welldriller
Posted 8/26/2009 9:44 PM (#396258 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?




Posts: 402


Location: Eagle River, WI
Agree on the 130# stealth flourocarcbon.
jasonvkop
Posted 8/27/2009 12:32 AM (#396288 - in reply to #396161)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?





Posts: 614


Location: Michigan
Single strand wire all the way for me. It takes some time to get used to but after awhile casting dawgs is a breeze and dawgballs rarely happen. A nice lob cast is all you really need and the bait won't do any flips in the air. I think most people try to throw them too hard which makes the bait do summersaults and get tangled.
JBush
Posted 8/27/2009 4:34 AM (#396299 - in reply to #396288)
Subject: Re: Bulldawgs, single strand or floro leader?




Posts: 311


Location: Ontario
250lbers from Stealth for mags and Pounders work very well. You'd have to put them in a bad spot and apply way too much pressure to the fish to bust one of these. Very high-quality leaders, after about the first wknd I was leaning into Pounders on the cast with them. I just can't see that set-up failing. They (John @ Stealth) ships fast and deals with your inquiry fast too.

Edited by JBush 8/27/2009 4:36 AM
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