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Location: West Bend, WI | Rather then go over the topic of "if gliders catch fish" as in a previous thread, I'd like to ask a question. How deep you glider guys fish with these lures. Is it realistic to fish 15+ ft with them? I was looking for a lure to work slowly and very deep. The bulldawg thing has been done to death on this lake and I was looking for something a little different. I used a dunwright dancer and got it down some, but I was not patient enough to wait 15-20 seconds for it to get down. Any suggestions? Should I stay with the dancer? Or is there a better deep jerkbait? |
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| I really like the 8" Turmoil by Bikini Bait Co. You can work this bait deep & slow, or rip it shallow in an erratic motion. Unfortunately Jed doesn't make this style anymore.:(
Another one to try for what your looking for is the truglides (awesome bait, a few different styles to choose from)
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Location: N.FIB | get a sucker musky snax,they sink pretty fast and have a great glide to them,I`ve used them deep in the fall. |
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Location: Freedom, WI | My X Glides can be run deep and I think Todd at Phantom makes a deep Phantom also. |
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Location: Bowling Green, KY | For you deep glider fishermen, how do you know when you've got a bite with the
amount of slack required to get these baits to do their thing? I've had three fish
hit gliders when I could see them hit, and I'm so conditioned to waiting to feel the
fish before I set the hook (a life time of bass fishing working against me) that
they both let go before I could react. This is a real catch 22 for me as glidebaits
have been one of the few "real" musky baits I've seen bring results around here
so I intend to give them more water time. |
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| I built myself a couple of gliders out of Snakewood. A very dense wood from Africa that requires no paint because it looks like a great sucker pattern the way it is. It casts a mile and sinks very fast. By the look of the line that I am watching, it moves very well even when down deep. I need to get on a real clear deep lake with it as soon as I can. Usually adding a lot of weight can make getting good action tough, but this wood has the weight built in.
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Location: VA | PT,
I too have a long background of Bass, if you think of a glider just like a suspending jerkbait, keep a taught line by reeling in slack instantly, you'll FEEL the hits just as you will with a jerkbait. Use the reel as you work the lure to do this. Just think, and work a glider like you would 39 degree water with winter bass and a jerkbait. All my 2008 muskie came on gliders and I felt them all.
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| Bikini Baits also makes a heavy 10" or so glider that is a tank. Deep is pretty much the only option with this bait unless you are really burning it in. I have it in walleye pattern.
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Location: Black Creek, WI | When I want to work a glide bait at a greater depth, I'll grab a deep diving crankbait. Deep divers can easily achieve that "walk the dog" action with a similar rod action used with Gliders. When you want to drive the bait deeper.... just straight crank it a bit. Suspending cranks such as the TripleD are perfect for this. |
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Location: West Bend, WI | Beaver, where do you get snakewood? Sounds interesting!
Edited by mrmatt 2/10/2009 11:06 AM
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| I'm not a big fan of the deep gliders. I prefer a much much slower sink rate in my gliders, almost neutrally buoyant. Something that will sort of "hover" on the pause and sink VERY slowly. Fishing gliders that way is something I usually only do late in the fall. If I want to get a bait down there in warmer water, I want something I can crank down and twitch, rip, work a little faster and be more agressive with, but something that doesn't rise too fast on the pause. I like the DDD's for that, especially when you upsize the hooks a bit so they rise even slower.
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Location: Belleville, WI | Slow rising DDD??? You sure about that? |
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| lardonastick - 2/10/2009 12:12 PM
Slow rising DDD??? You sure about that?
After a bit of.... modification. 
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| ummmm triple d's are meant to be neutrally buoyant...
I have about 10 and they all are very close to neutral with the stock hooks. one I did upsize the hooks one size to make it neutral. triple d's are not floaters like draiders. |
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| The ones I have all floated up until I upsized the hooks and put bigger split rings on them. Not real fast like a DR or a Jake, but they definitely floated when they came out of the package. |
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Location: Bowling Green, KY | I will have to work on getting the slack out faster during the pause, thanks, DR |
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| ummmm triple d's are meant to be neutrally buoyant...
they're meant to be, and most of them are. but not all.
i've had one or two that slowly sank, a few neutral out of the box, a few slow risers, and even one that was a pretty quick riser. i ditched the quick riser and played with hooks to get the rest to be neutral or slow rising.
i like the custom pained ones from Kurt's Island Sports as the extra paint/epoxy weight seems to help keep them down better and it doesn't seem to impair the action.
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | lambeau - 2/10/2009 8:58 PM
i like the custom pained ones from Kurt's Island Sports as the extra paint/epoxy weight seems to help keep them down better and it doesn't seem to impair the action.
Yeah!!! Those customs are BAD A$$ !!! |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | jlong - 2/10/2009 10:21 AM
When I want to work a glide bait at a greater depth, I'll grab a deep diving crankbait. Deep divers can easily achieve that "walk the dog" action with a similar rod action used with Gliders. When you want to drive the bait deeper.... just straight crank it a bit. Suspending cranks such as the TripleD are perfect for this.
Gotta agree with this for sure. Fishing a glider deep feels like I'm trying to screw in a phillips screw w/ a flathead screwdriver... it kinda works but the right tool works so much better.
esoxaddict - 2/10/2009 2:26 PM
The ones I have all floated up until I upsized the hooks and put bigger split rings on them. Not real fast like a DR or a Jake, but they definitely floated when they came out of the package.
This is one of those cases where everyone is right...
The first run of the DDD didn't have the same hooks on them as Drifter uses. The originals had a pretty light hook, I believe they were Mustad 2/0 roundbend (Jlong?). Those actually did rise pretty quickly w/ that hook.
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| I don't like deep running gliders personally. I don't think that they are made for deep presentations. You get the best action from neutrally buoyant gliders or gliders with a slow drop. Besides, I've seen fish come up out of 30 feet of water or more and eat gliders that were down 3 feet and then turn around and dive down with them.
Going deep? Use rubber or cranks with a Reefhawg type cadence and your cranks will dance. I love using Nitros and Legends and Kingfishers. |
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