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Guest
Posted 2/18/2007 11:05 AM (#239693)
Subject: PMTT Boat


What would you consider the smallest boat that would enter a pmtt event? Does the boat really matter as long as it floats? I've noticed that almost all of the fisherman that you here talked about at these tournaments are fishing out of rangers, do you really need to go fast or is it just because these fisherman are able to fish more, choose to fish from glass, but because of fishing more, are more successful?
sworrall
Posted 2/18/2007 11:28 AM (#239700 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
What you trying to bring out here?
lambeau
Posted 2/18/2007 12:02 PM (#239713 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat


here's a pic from the starting line at Petenwell last year.
2 Rangers in sight, 3 non-Rangers.
the small boat in the middle took 3rd place (Schillinger and Kempen).
they fish the system a lot.
the fish don't care what you drive, just be smart and safe.



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sworrall
Posted 2/18/2007 12:04 PM (#239715 - in reply to #239713)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
In answer to your question, I'd say 16'.
GOTONE
Posted 2/18/2007 1:16 PM (#239738 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: Re: PMTT Boat





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Location: WI
A contestant in Eagle River PMTT uses a pontoon boat, so I really don't think the fish care one way or the other.

GotOne
Ball Cap
Posted 2/18/2007 1:31 PM (#239748 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat


A team I got to know well fished some events out of a 14' Tuffy with a 20 or 25 horse.

Although, they pretty much got swamped on Tonka and even on Eagle River with all the pleasure boaters.

ANY boat will work as the fish don't care, but to be safe on bigger water, I would say 16'.

No need for a Ranger either. I fished plenty of events out of my 16' Fish Hawk with an 80 Yamaha it was just fine.

As far as size of my 80 horse motor, I was probably towards the middle. Plenty of boats with 50-75 horses and plenty over 100 too.
mikie
Posted 2/18/2007 1:47 PM (#239752 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: Re: PMTT Boat





Location: Athens, Ohio
Something in the rules about loss of points for not having a big enough live well? I didn't really uderstand it when I read it, maybe you lose out on bonus release points? m
Guest
Posted 2/18/2007 2:08 PM (#239764 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat


cool, thanks guys, nothing bad intended here I personally fish from a ranger most of the time, it just isn't mine
Slamr
Posted 2/18/2007 2:54 PM (#239773 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
I've attended about 12 PMTT events over the years while working to provide MuskieFIRST event coverage. Below are some examples of the types of boats that anglers are running. What I think is one of the coolest things about the PMTT is that it isnt all trail teams, not all pros running monster rigs with huge motors. It truly is a cross section of the muskie community. Guys are running Rangers, Tuffys, Crestliner, G3, Tracker, Triton as well as the guy who runs the pontoon, the team at the Eagle River event last year that row trolled for 2 days, and the team of guys that isnt guys at all, its two ladies. I've seen people take their dog as a partner!
All the anglers fish hard, that is about the only constant that I've seen in those who fish the events. Beyond that, people fish a million different ways, and just when a "pattern" is established that "everyone" is doing to catch fish, the team that is doing something TOTALLY DIFFERENT surprises the whole field (2006 Eagle River where THE pattern was bulldawgs off the edges, the team that won it was blazing spinnerbaits over thick weeds!).
Tournament fishing isnt for everyone, but it is something everyone should consider trying at least once. It doesnt have to be a "big money" tournament, but fishing muskies with a little "extra" on the line appeals to alot of people. Not for everyone, but something to think about for anyone who likes being on the water.




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Top H2O
Posted 2/18/2007 5:24 PM (#239789 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat




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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Mikie,
You don't loose any points due to the size of your livewell, I don't think you even have to have one in order to fish a PMTT event.

Later, Jerome
Top H2O
Posted 2/18/2007 6:12 PM (#239793 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat




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Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
Lambeau,

I may be wrong but do the row troller boats have a live well ?
And I know for a fact that a lot of the boats out there don't have live wells bigger than 24"
At the rules meetings the PMTT says NOT to transport the fish but to wait for a judge boat to come to you., which doesn't take very long at all.

Jerome
ToddM
Posted 2/18/2007 8:07 PM (#239823 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat





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Location: oswego, il
Didn't Kevin nash and Mike Savitski miss being top gun in the PMTT two years ago fishing most of the events out of a mid 80's tuffy marauder and a 40 horse?
mikie
Posted 2/19/2007 7:12 AM (#239893 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: Re: PMTT Boat





Location: Athens, Ohio
All teams MUST have a livewell of sufficient size to, in the opinion of the PMTT tournament judges or officials, adequately handle the size of the fish being transported. If this requirement is not met, there shall be no BONUS points awarded, even if the release is apparently successful.

Yeah, that's what I was looking for. My Gambler live well fits bass and crappie just fine, but you could only get half a muskie in one and I don't think I'd get points that way! m
Guest
Posted 2/19/2007 7:35 PM (#240145 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat


wow, great pics slamr! Did you guys see how many tackle boxs the ladies had in the boat!! Holy smokes! thats crazy, I'd be too afraid to get the boat up on plane.

from promusky.com


d. In addition, there shall be 10 (ten) BONUS points for a “GOOD RELEASE.” A “good release” is defined as a musky released “upright and healthy.” A good release shall be at the discretion of the Judge or Tournament Official presiding over the measurement and release.

AND:

All teams MUST have a livewell of sufficient size to, in the opinion of the PMTT tournament judges or officials, adequately handle the size of the fish being transported. If this requirement is not met, there shall be no BONUS points awarded, even if the release is apparently successful.

Reef Hawg
Posted 2/19/2007 8:28 PM (#240159 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat




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Location: north central wisconsin
Lambeau... that my rig looks even smaller in pictures than from the inside makes me feel even sillier than I did while there. Thanks for pointing that out! We do fish Pete alot, though rarely choose to head north from Barnum Bay with 40 MPH Norwesterlies rolling in. I am sure we weren't the only ones white knuckling as a few people lost electronics, and one team lost their bow mount trolling motor to the sea on the ride 'up'. I need a faster rig as we also became the last boat in line once we got to the river channel. Luckily we were able to make up some ground running through the stump fields...

That said, there were several 'smaller'(though maybe not shallower) rigs than mine fishing the tour last year. We saw one 14'er score a dandy fish near us on Vermillion while we both fought 3+' waves. Those dudes were getting tossed, but knew to keep the nose into it. Last year would have been a good year to have a faster rig, but it did work out to our advantage, making us fish a few more spots in an area before leaving(not that it would always work out that way).

I would not allow having a small rig to deter you from enterring and winning if it is all you have, but it sure would be more comfortable in something able to handle whatever the day/water can throw at you.

Edited by Reef Hawg 2/19/2007 8:29 PM
BruceKY
Posted 2/19/2007 8:39 PM (#240162 - in reply to #240145)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat





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Location: KY
"Did you guys see how many tackle boxes the ladies had in the boat!! Holy smokes!"

I’ve got tackle envy!



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Posted 2/19/2007 9:02 PM (#240170 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat


Hey Guys,

You can fish out of anything you want, as long as it is safe, approved by and not in any violation of any coast guard, manufacturers limitations, etc, etc. We too think it's cool the wide spectrum of fishing machines that the anglers come to compete out of. As mentioned, it's not the fastest boat that wins, but the anglers that figure out the most effective pattern and capitalize on it.

As far as the livewell rule and bonus points, they don't go hand in hand. Bonus points are just that. They are strictly awarded for taking your time and careful handling and release of the musky. The livewell is for some reason you can't get a hold of a judge (your radio is dead) and you must move to register your fish (where allowed by law). It must fit comfortably in your livewell, no matter what size the fish is.

To be honest, a lot of times when you hook and or land a fish, there is usually another team already calling the judge for you. We have not had a team transport a musky during a tournament in so many years now, I can't even remember when or how many years ago it was.

Take care,

Tim Widlacki


muskie_man
Posted 2/19/2007 9:13 PM (#240174 - in reply to #239893)
Subject: Re: PMTT Boat





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Location: South Portsmouth, KY
mikie - 2/19/2007 8:12 AM

All teams MUST have a livewell of sufficient size to, in the opinion of the PMTT tournament judges or officials, adequately handle the size of the fish being transported. If this requirement is not met, there shall be no BONUS points awarded, even if the release is apparently successful.

Yeah, that's what I was looking for. My Gambler live well fits bass and crappie just fine, but you could only get half a muskie in one and I don't think I'd get points that way! m


Found this pic while searching through the PMTT pics. it looks like this guy was just using a plastic container filled with water to substitute as his adequate sized livewell.

Edited by muskie_man 2/19/2007 9:17 PM



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Brian Hoffies
Posted 2/20/2007 4:21 PM (#240391 - in reply to #239693)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat


Remember.......

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog."

jim casteel
Posted 2/20/2007 8:29 PM (#240462 - in reply to #240391)
Subject: RE: PMTT Boat




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Location: oak lawn IL
have you ever heard about the pirahna (sp)that ate the aligator
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