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Message Subject: Beaverturd ready for Action!
sworrall
Posted 7/11/2003 9:03 AM (#75614)
Subject: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

Here she is, ready to hit the water this weekend. Looks like a warm front is coming in, and maybe some pretty good fishing, I hope. I couldn't go yesterday, and REALLY wanted to with the perfect conditions going through.

Thanks, Beav!! I added the stinger (you know I put this ugly thing on all the Turd baits I have) so she is ready to stick a big girl.




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Posted 7/11/2003 9:47 AM (#75618 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!


Hey Steve, what’s up with that stinger hook? Are you trying to hook them in the throat? Com’on give the fish a chance. If your going to gut hook them, at least pinch the barbs on that thing.
tomcat
Posted 7/11/2003 9:49 AM (#75619 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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working these baits...so, i just got anohther surface bait like Beav's, but i got a Slam R...i threw i once or twice...so, just that tail flipping over in the water and the lure tracking straight gets the muskies going? seems like very sublte action...i assume i'm working it right? a stright, steady, medium slow retrieve??? thanks guys.
tom

Posted 7/11/2003 10:04 AM (#75621 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!


jsut reel it fast enough for the blade to flip a little water. the blade shouldnt go all the way around in circles but back and forth and once in a while go all the way around. u can get in a rythem where the blade will actally flip a little water to the left than go back and forth a couple times and spit water the other way. it should actaully work better in a chop.
sworrall
Posted 7/11/2003 10:52 AM (#75624 - in reply to #75621)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

Hey PC,

I have caught dozens of fish on the turd with a stinger hook over more than 20 years use, and have never 'throat hooked' one yet. The stinger usually ends up in the outer mouth of the fish somewhere, usually in the corner. Note the hook is very small, also.

In fact, the stinger turns the bait from a 20% hook up because the fish slap at it from the rear so much, to a 90% hookup, usually right in the corner of the mouth. Realx, the fish that eat this thing are more than safe.

Your logic would indicate any bait with a rear hook,--- like say, a big bucktail, and a front hook like, say, the Ghost tails have, or maybe a Jerko or a Suick with three huge trebles, (or a creature, since the fish would obviously eat the entire lure)-- would be exceedingly dangerous to the fish. ???????? 

Gut hook? Sheesh. Look at the picture again. The rear stinger hangs a WHOLE 3/4 inch lower than  the other two hooks, and simply takes the place of a rear hook, which the Turd can't sport because of the blade.

sworrall
Posted 7/11/2003 10:55 AM (#75625 - in reply to #75624)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

tomcat,

The bait is very subtle, and doesn't churn up the water much at all. I like to toss them in ANY conditions, including very rough water, and simply reel steady and slow, just enough to get the tail popping side to side, and spinning in between pops.


Posted 7/11/2003 11:13 AM (#75627 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!


Ya ya, I know… just couldn’t come up with anything better. What fun would message boards be if you can’t take a pot shot now and then?. Especially at a legend of the sport!?.
stephendawg
Posted 7/11/2003 11:20 AM (#75628 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!




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Location: Lafayette, IN
How's the "Turd" compare to the "PoeTail"? I know there's only 1 treble on the PoeTail but if I added a stinger?.........hmmmmm
Beaver
Posted 7/11/2003 11:24 AM (#75629 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Funny, I don't remember eating anything that looked like that.
sworrall
Posted 7/11/2003 11:42 AM (#75633 - in reply to #75627)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

Legend? Who? Where??

Nice shot, anyway...

 

As Sponger says, gooder one!

tomcat
Posted 7/11/2003 12:36 PM (#75641 - in reply to #75625)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Thanks SW..i guess i'll throw it for longer than 5 mintues and see if get anything going on it..thanks man. i do appreciate the advise w/ the this style of lure.-
tomcat
divani
Posted 7/11/2003 3:28 PM (#75651 - in reply to #75641)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Location: Belgium
how much longer will beav torture me????
firstsixfeet
Posted 7/11/2003 7:59 PM (#75662 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!




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I don't like the looks of it. If my eyeball is correct, the swing radius on the back hook overlaps the stinger shaft, which I assume is rigid.
I would rather see a shorter body or a jointed body to maximize the wobble quotient in this type of lure, have tried but not been satisfied with the longer type bodies. If you catch a couple behind me though, I would give it a try. If you can catch a couple behind me...

Politically Correct, you need to understand that everyone is very SERIOUS and very SENSITIVE on this board. Sworrall now being especially sensitive since he is once again in the process of spawning. I also have been noted to have sensitivity, ie if an elephant steps on me I am liable to say "ouch" quite loudly. Sponge was going to organize some sensitivity training this spring at the Cave Run outing but we made sure he left KY before that could happen, and now he is limited to internet "group hugs"(not as satisfying I am sure, but as close as I want to get to him without my wife being present)!
sworrall
Posted 7/11/2003 8:29 PM (#75665 - in reply to #75662)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

FSF,

If you mean that the back hook gets fouled on the stinger, it doesn't.

Jointed bodies reduce the tail from doing what it is supposed to do, and actually, the less wobble the better so the blade can dig in and really pop. The bait is a pretty close copy of the Heddon Vamp Flaptail; just ALOT better looking.

I have caught fish on this bait behind lots of folks, so anything is possible!

Beaver
Posted 7/11/2003 8:36 PM (#75667 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Here's a shot of some Turds before the Worrall adaptation. Including a couple of St Croix specials that were given to a couple of special recipients.
Divani....things are on hold until I can afford a new compressor for my air brush or get it repaired.

Edited by Beaver 7/11/2003 9:08 PM



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MJB_04
Posted 7/11/2003 11:13 PM (#75683 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Some people believe certain surface baits perform better riding high or very low in the water. What do you choose Steve?

Thanks,
MJB
Beaver
Posted 7/12/2003 7:59 AM (#75686 - in reply to #75614)
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The Turds that I made I gave 2 coats of Envirotex, so they feel heavier and sit a little lower in the water, As long as the tail breaks the surface and "bloops" from time to time, it's working good. I also made a low profile one with a more streamlined body that cuts through the chop and works better in choppy conditions. The Turds are bouyant, but I tried to make them run lower because I think muskies miss bouyant lures because they blow them out of the water when they try to eat them. The ones pictured I designed for calm conditions. The flat front is made to push water.
Beaver
sworrall
Posted 7/12/2003 8:56 AM (#75689 - in reply to #75686)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I like surface baits to ride as low in the water as possible and still perform. I use an Undertaker or a Jerko for a zig-zag bait on top for that reason. The fish seem (stress SEEM) to be able to target low riding topwaters better.
Beaver
Posted 7/12/2003 6:52 PM (#75712 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Here's a pic of the streamlined model which actually seems to cut through a slight chop instead of riding over it.


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divani
Posted 7/14/2003 3:03 AM (#75785 - in reply to #75614)
Subject: RE: Beaverturd ready for Action!





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Location: Belgium
ok beav, no problem!
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