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Muskie Fishing -> Lures,Tackle, and Equipment -> Figure 8 with a glider
 
Message Subject: Figure 8 with a glider
JoeTC
Posted 6/16/2008 8:50 AM (#322525)
Subject: Figure 8 with a glider




Posts: 31


I had this really agressive fish following a hellhound this weekend and when I went into a figure 8 I realized that I didn't know what to do. I didn't know if I should pull it straight or try and give it jerks during the 8. He followed it back 3 different times and followed for about a half of the loop and then disapeared. So my question is what do you do in a situation like this? And how about dive and rise type jerkbaits?

Thanks,
Joe
The Wanderer
Posted 6/16/2008 9:43 AM (#322539 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider





Posts: 158


Location: Burlington, WI
Move your rod back and forth perpendicular to the direction of your figure 8 in order to continue giving the bait the side to side action. Some glide baits will kick out some on their own, but others won't (manta, hellhound).
JBush
Posted 6/16/2008 9:52 AM (#322542 - in reply to #322539)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider




Posts: 311


Location: Ontario
With the tail tab bent on a Suick, Bobbie or Big Daddy (Suick tail is different to bend than the other two) they will wobble through your figure 8 really nice, this is good for trolling too. Any kind of sweep or extra long pull on the way back to the boat you can get them to wobble almost like a crankbait. Hope this helps, I can't say much about gliders, I don't fish with them much, but lots of guys here do.
Willis
Posted 6/16/2008 9:53 AM (#322543 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: RE: Figure 8 with a glider




Posts: 227


Location: New Brighton, MN
I haven't hooked up on a figure 8 with a glider, but I just give my hellhound slight jerks during the figure 8, and it gives it good action.
C.Painter
Posted 6/16/2008 12:46 PM (#322579 - in reply to #322543)
Subject: RE: Figure 8 with a glider





Posts: 1245


Location: Madtown, WI
Hell hounds have pretty good wobble when you just pull them. You can do a little jerking but I like to just pull them like a bucktail...and add speed and depth change just like a tail. Does work sometimes!!

Cory
jonnysled
Posted 6/16/2008 12:48 PM (#322581 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
ask nelson ... he loves gliders
muskihntr
Posted 6/16/2008 12:52 PM (#322582 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider




Posts: 2037


Location: lansing, il
yeah but fishing has been slow for him. he "only boated 4" what would he know! :-))

Edited by muskihntr 6/16/2008 12:52 PM
C.Painter
Posted 6/16/2008 3:41 PM (#322600 - in reply to #322582)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider





Posts: 1245


Location: Madtown, WI
Yeah he hates them...but he has caught a pile of fish on them this year so far!

Cory
BNelson
Posted 6/16/2008 3:45 PM (#322602 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider





Location: Contrarian Island
what's a glider?

as far as a figure 8 with them...you can't go wrong with figure 8'ing them just like you would a bucktail as they have a natural side to side action when straight retrieved and this works on the 8 just as well...best bet is get them to eat before they get to the boat...

Edited by MSKY HNR 6/16/2008 3:50 PM
Bytor
Posted 6/16/2008 3:49 PM (#322604 - in reply to #322602)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider





Location: The Yahara Chain
MSKY HNR - 6/16/2008 3:45 PM

what's a glider? ;-)


Your favorite lure on your favorite lake.

www.nelsonthrowsglidersonwingraallday.com
BNelson
Posted 6/16/2008 3:51 PM (#322605 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider





Location: Contrarian Island
yes, love them both... alllllll dayyyyyyyyy
jonnysled
Posted 6/16/2008 3:54 PM (#322606 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
didn't you learn that from that essoxaddict guy ???
JoeTC
Posted 6/16/2008 4:09 PM (#322611 - in reply to #322602)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider




Posts: 31


...best bet is get them to eat before they get to the boat...


What's the best trick to get them to eat?...Speed up? Slow down?

This fish was so close that afterward I thought if I would have slowed down he would have ran right into my bait.
longcast_jackpot
Posted 6/16/2008 7:50 PM (#322648 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: RE: Figure 8 with a glider




Posts: 20


better to to twich the bait without reeling in line.
Cowboyhannah
Posted 6/16/2008 9:29 PM (#322661 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider





Posts: 1460


Location: Kronenwetter, WI
I have caught fish I see following a ways out by giving them a couple real hard POPS. To me, if you don't get 'em before they get to the boat on a glider, you're not going to get 'em.
Don Pfeiffer
Posted 6/17/2008 10:43 PM (#322800 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider




Posts: 929


Location: Rhinelander.
I see where someone replied about figure 8s with a suick as a glidebait. I don't consider a suick a glide bait but rather a jerk bait. Same with the reefhawg. To me and some of of the others I have talked to a glider should glide on its own some somedistanec after you start it. Those other baits stop as soon as you stop working them.. I just do a figure with the gliders and jerks as I would any bait. I probably only catch a few muskies a year on the eight and I do it after every cast.
Pfeiff
Sab
Posted 6/18/2008 7:15 PM (#322925 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: RE: Figure 8 with a glider




Posts: 69


I took 2 on a figure 8 with a Hellhound last year,and sitting here I'm not a 100 % sure how I do it. I know I drop the pole in the water,keep the lure down,and go into my 8 without any difficulties. Sometimes when you use a lure so much,you don't even think about what you do. I'll let you know in detail a month from now,when I get back.
ERC-Bryan
Posted 6/18/2008 9:26 PM (#322932 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: RE: Figure 8 with a glider


A little trick with the HH for followers...

I don't even fig8 em. Walk it in a usual and when about 5 feet from the boat pause the bait. As the HH drops, it has a slight shimmy in the way down. Sometimes they'll take it on the drop. If they don't, give it a quick upwards pop of the rod tip and the bait will dart upwards and glide out, then pause & flutter again. If that doesn't work, come back and get her later.

Bryan
esox50
Posted 6/18/2008 9:32 PM (#322933 - in reply to #322525)
Subject: Re: Figure 8 with a glider





Posts: 2024


I'll normally use the rod tip and continue imparting a zig-zag action.

One thing to note is not all gliders have the ability to glide while being pulled straight through the water. Magic Makers and Phantoms work well this way, Mantas not so much, and Hellhounds take more speed to get the glide going. Food for thought as not all gliders are built/act the same way.
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