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Mr.Muskie
Posted 4/22/2013 6:15 PM (#636771)
Subject: What braids do you guys run for trolling?


I was looking to change over to braided line for trolling. What line do you guys recommend? Switching over to braid from mono is going to be a bit pricey so before I bite the bullet I was just wondering what line some of you guys like.. thanks everyone..
cast10K
Posted 4/22/2013 6:34 PM (#636776 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: RE: What braids do you guys run for trolling?




Posts: 432


Location: Eagan, MN
I've been running 100lb Stealth, which works great, but I don't seem to get the running depths that a lot of guys to with a given lure. Might try something a little thinner this year.
Mr.Muskie
Posted 4/22/2013 7:06 PM (#636789 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: RE: What braids do you guys run for trolling?


I was looking at running 65lb power pro or sufix 832 65lb...
andreula
Posted 4/22/2013 7:18 PM (#636791 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: Re: What braids do you guys run for trolling?




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I would say 80lb minimum...
Mr.Muskie
Posted 4/22/2013 7:32 PM (#636794 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: RE: What braids do you guys run for trolling?


Why? I used 50lb or 40lb big game for years and had no problem with big fish... That was mostly planer board fishing. Im going to start using more down rods on different bodies of water....
muddymusky
Posted 4/22/2013 8:58 PM (#636832 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: RE: What braids do you guys run for trolling?




Posts: 600


I like 80 lb tuff line or cortland masterbraid.
muskihntr
Posted 4/22/2013 9:00 PM (#636834 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: Re: What braids do you guys run for trolling?




Posts: 2037


Location: lansing, il
80 and 100# Hi Seas Grand Slam Braid, and for my mono set ups I am running 40# Hi Seas Quattro Mono.
keithtrophyfishn.com
Posted 4/23/2013 8:34 AM (#636905 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: Re: What braids do you guys run for trolling?




Posts: 42


Location: Ontario
I use 200lb power pro not for the fish but because of the Custom baits I run ( Wishmasters, Franitcs, Hose, Plows, and percch baits ) that can cost upwards of $200. Its just insurance for the lures and has nothing to do with breaking off fish. I use to use 100lb but had 2 break offs and lost $300 in 1 day so I switched out. You need to beef up everything when you do this holders, reels and rods.
Jerry Newman
Posted 4/23/2013 9:14 AM (#636915 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: Re: What braids do you guys run for trolling?




Location: 31
I used the 50lb. “monofilament” brand… quit using super lines for trolling. One thing I miss is feeling every head shake with them, with most fish we could pretty accurately guess the length of the fish based on the width of the head shake. The thing I don't miss is them shaking off.
cast10K
Posted 4/23/2013 10:25 AM (#636939 - in reply to #636794)
Subject: RE: What braids do you guys run for trolling?




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Location: Eagan, MN
Mr.Muskie - 4/22/2013 7:32 PM

Why? I used 50lb or 40lb big game for years and had no problem with big fish... That was mostly planer board fishing. Im going to start using more down rods on different bodies of water....



40-50 lb mono is NOT equivalent to 65 lb braid. It's much thicker and has way more shock absorbing stretch than the braid. Not saying 65 won't work, just saying it's not comparable.
tuffy1
Posted 4/23/2013 10:55 AM (#636952 - in reply to #636939)
Subject: RE: What braids do you guys run for trolling?





Posts: 3242


Location: Racine, Wi
I run a bit of everything. I use 20# floro for some small baits, but for braids, I use 65# and 80# powerpro. They double for use out on Lake Michigan as well, but have had no issues for inland or Big Pond fishing with either the 65 or the 80.
Mr.Muskie
Posted 4/23/2013 7:35 PM (#637066 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: RE: What braids do you guys run for trolling?


Why do guys choose braid over mono for down rods when trolling?.. Im used to running 6 rods on boards so I only used mono.. Thanks Everyone!!
Confused
Posted 4/23/2013 7:38 PM (#637068 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: RE: What braids do you guys run for trolling?


What are you guys using on your casting rods? I cant believe you guys are using mono on trolling set us, am I missing something here, please explain this to me, guys are casting between 65-100LBS test and you guys are using 20 lbs mono, wow.
cave run legend
Posted 4/23/2013 7:39 PM (#637069 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: Re: What braids do you guys run for trolling?





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It dives deeper with less line out.
Jerry Newman
Posted 4/23/2013 9:56 PM (#637111 - in reply to #637068)
Subject: RE: What braids do you guys run for trolling?




Location: 31


Confused - 4/23/2013 7:38 PM What are you guys using on your casting rods? I cant believe you guys are using mono on trolling set us, am I missing something here, please explain this to me, guys are casting between 65-100LBS test and you guys are using 20 lbs mono, wow.
 

The only time I would consider using a braided super line now would be to get deep, or when trolling super slow. Otherwise, at 3-4 miles an hour I've had a much better hook-up/boated fish percentage with 40-50 lb. monofilament. 

I actually run the drag a little loose and turn the boat away from the strike and hammer the 9.9 when I get a rip. Obviously this tightens the line up on the fish, but it also slacks up the opposite side to clear the rods a little faster/easier.

If you're going to use a super line, I'd recommend using a fairly limber rod because it's already partially loaded up when the fish hits… kind of like salmon fishing. This is coming from somebody who has years of experience trolling both lines, but to each his own. 

To answer your question I use 80 lb super line for casting… there is no comparison between the two methods because it's much easier to “get hooks” trolling versus casting. That's probably what you're missing?

ShutUpNFish
Posted 4/24/2013 9:37 AM (#637172 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: Re: What braids do you guys run for trolling?





Posts: 1202


Location: Money, PA
I like 3 Tiger Braid, Tuf Line and Power Pro...In that order....Stealth is junk IMO....frays up like crazy and seperates...I'll never use it again.

Mono is obsolete in my boat. I can't find any legitimate reason to use mono for anything concerning muskies except for winter cold temps fishing where line freeze is a factor....Thats it.

I cannot see how "stretch" can be a good thing when you're trying to drive 5/0, 6/0, 7/0 even 8/0 trebels into a fishes big boney jaw?? I'll take 0 stretch and instant hook setting power over stretching line any day and adjust my drag accordingly (thats what its there for) I have lived through the transition from mono to super braids and IMHO there is NO comparison between mono and braid for me.
Jerry Newman
Posted 4/25/2013 11:11 PM (#637557 - in reply to #636771)
Subject: Re: What braids do you guys run for trolling?




Location: 31
There's simply no way that mono should ever be considered “obsolete” any time during the year. For an example, I would hope it's not too much of a stretch saying mono in place of any braid with your typical down rod with 15-20’ of line out at 4 MPH simply doesn't matter to “get hooks”. Think about that scenario if you typically short line troll with a braid on 1 line only per angler water.

I understand that it's probably difficult for people who haven't trolled much with mono to get their mind around it because it certainly took me many lost fish before I was converted… can't even begin to tell you how frustrating it became losing fish on braids, especially big fish.

So to each their own but after about 15 years of trolling with braid I switched to mono three years ago and have had much better results boating fish after the switch. Like I said; it's simply not a problem getting hooks, the big difference is that more of them stay hooked.
tuffy1
Posted 4/26/2013 9:30 AM (#637606 - in reply to #637557)
Subject: Re: What braids do you guys run for trolling?





Posts: 3242


Location: Racine, Wi
There's definitely a time and place for mono. On Pewaukee we run small baits at times, and the stretch from mono helps from straightening smaller hooks out and adds forgiveness to the smaller baits. Also, on my boat, those rods double for my rigger rods when fishing on Lake Michigan, so they serve a dual purpose. Never had any issues running 20# Pline.

Also, heavier mono (say 40-50#) will help keep your bait shallower due to it's diameter. Because braid has such a small diameter, it will obviously get baits deeper faster. There are times I want to have more line out or to keep baits shallower, so I'd use 40-50# mono on those rods.

Don't neglect mono as there is a time and place for it. Use both in your spreads and you'll have all of your bases covered.
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