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Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures
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Message Subject: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures
PennsylvaniaMuskie
Posted 10/26/2024 10:55 AM (#1031279)
Subject: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 107


Which crankbaits do you guys like the most for trolling? I want to get into trolling and I'm looking to see which lures I should try getting. I imagine it likely doesn't make much of a difference, but wanted some more input.
pstrombe
Posted 10/26/2024 2:02 PM (#1031281 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures





Posts: 205


I'm very fond of the big Hex baits and will occasionally pull a 22 long or a Jake. I gifted a pair big cisco pattern Jakes to a camp owner in Ontario last year and they did very well with them trolling late. It seems that if I am pulling a Matlock and a Hex the Hex seems to get bit.
PennsylvaniaMuskie
Posted 10/26/2024 2:31 PM (#1031282 - in reply to #1031281)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 107


What size hex do you use? The primary forage around my area is mostly shad, panfish and perch, although there are walleye and carp. I've been trying to use lures more similar in size and shape to the forage, but I've also heard people say matching the hatch isn't always a good idea when it comes to musky fishing.
chuckski
Posted 10/27/2024 11:13 AM (#1031289 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 1393


Location: Brighton CO.
All of the above plus Ernie, Depth Raider, (both jointed/straight) shallow Raider, Musky Candy, Believer, (jointed/straight), Rapala Super Shad Rap., Countdown Rapala, Legend, Triple D, Len Hartman's Bug, Smittybaits, Cobb's, Bagley db08, Spinnerbait .....
PennsylvaniaMuskie
Posted 10/27/2024 1:41 PM (#1031290 - in reply to #1031289)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 107


chuckski - 10/27/2024 11:13 AM

All of the above plus Ernie, Depth Raider, (both jointed/straight) shallow Raider, Musky Candy, Believer, (jointed/straight), Rapala Super Shad Rap., Countdown Rapala, Legend, Triple D, Len Hartman's Bug, Smittybaits, Cobb's, Bagley db08, Spinnerbait .....

Do you think I should just get a wide variety and troll one of each? I'm new to trolling and just trying to figure out what's going to work best.
chuckski
Posted 10/27/2024 7:10 PM (#1031292 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 1393


Location: Brighton CO.
Put something in front of them and hope they eat. I've been doing this for 50 years so I have more stuff then I need.
kap
Posted 10/28/2024 8:31 AM (#1031295 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 552


Location: deephaven mn
they all can and will get bit. Jakes Grandmas Slammers and Believers all have caught lots of fish,
Super Naturals are really good too as they wander side to side as well as wobbble the Phantom Hex is similar.
but the cost 3 times as much. Size can matter on certain bodies of water too. Muskies eat prey of all sizes caught them on crappie minnows and 14" baits too. Its just testing and trying if you get bit on one bait put a similar bait out too.
a pattern might develope in a day but might take several days to appear. lean towards gold on cloudy days silver on sunny or natural on sunny bright on cloudy. thats the fun of it trying and testing trolling done right can be very productive.
Masqui-ninja
Posted 10/28/2024 8:53 AM (#1031296 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures





Posts: 1247


Location: Walker, MN
Yep, there's no silver bullet. Experiment with size, speed, action and color...see what gets bit. Patterns will change too, so you are trying to hit a moving target. Learn to enjoy the process and the fish will come.
southern comfort
Posted 10/28/2024 11:12 AM (#1031297 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 393


I have had success with all of the options presented. My first choice are the Supernatural baits. They are pricey for sure but they do differentiate themselves. I agree with others who recommend trying different options, size and color. Starting out that might lead you to try some of the lower cost options. Another custom brand that I have had a lot of success are Ridgeway crank baits. Again they are pricey but they have incredible colors and finish. Finally the more you troll the more you rely on baits that have heavy duty lips because you will usually be bouncing off the bottom at some point when you troll.
North of 8
Posted 10/28/2024 11:23 AM (#1031298 - in reply to #1031297)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Water you are working makes a difference too. When motor trolling was allowed in her in N. WI, tried a couple different things in the river between the lake I live on and the next in the chain. River is shallow and weedy, outside the channel in the middle. A lure that works well for prop wash trolling for me is an 8" jointed Believer, with the snap in the first eye, so it runs higher. Set up like that, with 10 feet of line out, minimum fouling and have caught a number of fish on it. Still can't believe fish will hit right behind the prop but they do.
In deeper water, have had luck with Jake baits, Slammer.
bloatlord
Posted 10/29/2024 9:35 PM (#1031302 - in reply to #1031298)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 98


50 cal, jake, mattlock, and rapala super shad for weed choked lakes.
phselect
Posted 10/30/2024 12:39 PM (#1031311 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 166


Location: Alexandria, MN
As much as I love all of the named options, the 10" Believer has been my most successful trolling bait. Straight model - though the jointed ones are good, too. They're loud, buoyant, and they have a nice "wander" to them.
OH Musky
Posted 10/30/2024 7:23 PM (#1031315 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 384


Location: SW Ohio
This is a great discussion on trolling baits. Our local lake exceeds 100’ for the lower half and over 40’ for the upper. We have a lot of points, a few humps and at least three major 200-300 yr ridge lines. The lower north creek area is a winding 8-15’ with stumps on both sides. The creek itself is 3-10’ right now (winter draw down). Most of the fish caught trolling are in open water, and the predominant forage is shad.

Catching fish trolling has eluded me for the last couple years. I run Jake’s, grants, boss Shad’s, extreme, and Bucher depth raiders. and variety of other lures with no success. Both with my main motor and my kicker at 3-4 mph.

Is speed, lure or depth the most important aspect of trolling? I know it’s a combination but something has to be the first.
7.62xJay
Posted 10/31/2024 1:05 PM (#1031317 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures





Posts: 527


Location: NW WI
Does anybody actually fish their "Gringos"?
I
North of 8
Posted 10/31/2024 2:44 PM (#1031318 - in reply to #1031317)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




7.62xJay - 10/31/2024 1:05 PM

Does anybody actually fish their "Gringos"?
I


I got mine through the vet auction and it is on the wall in my shop. To me, it is a combination of art and craft, so don't think I will fish it.
TCESOX
Posted 10/31/2024 5:19 PM (#1031321 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures





Posts: 1278


I've got two hanging on either side of my tiger replica, that I won't use for the same reason North of 8 mentioned. I do have a smaller one that I have used and caught a fish with.
JKahler
Posted 11/19/2024 3:45 PM (#1031542 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 1288


Location: WI
Keep it simple. Pick a couple and get black/silver or firetiger, white, common colors that work. I have caught way more fish on Grandmas than others, but sometimes they want a tighter wobble like a Depth Raider, or wide like a Believer. Supernatural Baits are great, but I wouldn’t go spending a lot on a lure if you’re new to trolling.

I have some expensive baits in the boat, but find myself usually sticking to Grandmas, Believers, Big Games, spinnerbaits. Option paralysis is a thing, keep it simple.
OH Musky
Posted 11/19/2024 4:48 PM (#1031543 - in reply to #1031279)
Subject: Re: Grandma vs Jake's vs slammer vs supernatural lures




Posts: 384


Location: SW Ohio
Bought two 9" Classic Grandmas on Tuesday from our local BPS (finally have a decent musky selection). Fished one on Saturday. 1/2 hour of trolling and 1/2 hour of casting and it was sinking already. Took it back and got an exchange. We'll see if the other two leak this weekend. I like how it trolled so I hope they work out.
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