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| I don't post a lot on forums but I do enjoy reading topics people post. I live in a state that doesn't have many Musky lakes but it's one of my passions. We have a mess in our state with Nonmeandered Water that should have been taken care of years ago. The state pulled the public ramps to 20 lakes. I understand both sides of the spectrum from the land owners to the outdoorsman. One of the lakes on the list is basically the only lake that I can target Musky within a reasonable driving distance . What I'm asking if you have fished South Dakota could you email our state's Governor and let them know how much you enjoyed our waters. I also have a link to the artical and Govenors email. Thanks for the support guys!
http://gfp.sd.gov/news/news/april/6.aspx
http://sd.gov/governor/contact/contact.aspx
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| If there is a boat ramp is it not navigable?
Edited by Fishysam 4/10/2017 10:44 AM
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| It is unfortunate for many reasons. And I do understand both sides of the issue. But this took away the ONLY good musky lake we have in SD. |
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| For sure and a potential one right north of it! |
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| Not only that, but pretty much all of the fisheries in SD, other than the Missouri River, would be classified as non meandered waters. Where does it stop? Bitter, Waubay, 81 ponds, North Island, Sinai...the list goes on and on of lakes that could fall to the same issue. |
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Location: oswego, il | So there must be a law that creates this situation. Should be changed. Would be interesting to know how the law came about and who was behind it. From a tourism standpoint makes no sense. It must be from private interest. Given that, this strategy could spill over into other states. |
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Location: Smith Creek | I fished Scotts "Lake" when it was Scotts Slough. You have a public road that is overtaken by a slough that originated on private land, therefore if you park and cast off the public road you are casting onto private land. In WI you don't own the bottom of the lake, that's public. In a bunch of backward states people own the lake or river bottom, so access can be restricted not just on the shore but in the middle of the lake too.
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| That's really lame. I was just thinking of heading over there one of these weekends before MN opener but had nothing in stone yet. I'll send an email, hopefully this can get sorted out soon so that it doesn't miss a beat stocking-wise. |
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| This is a huge bummer. I cancelled my spring trip back home for other reasons but after they closed 2 of my favorite lakes in the state I probably would have cancelled it anyhow. Fished a lot of Nonmeandered and Meandered water since I was a kid. Hopefully it gets squared away sooner than later. Pretty sure Sinai is meandered at least but a ton of great water is in jeopardy.
Wish all the property owners were like my grandpa and great grandpa. They farmed land that is now under roughly 20 fow on Sinai. Never complained just dealt with what ma nature threw at them. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Lakes rights are going to be the fight of our time. This is completely unacceptable in my eyes and I'm sure the people on lakes like Christmas, Gull, Pelican, etc and looking at this ruling and licking their chops to try to pervert it to their own ends... |
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| Muskie treats. Only thing I can think of once inland lakes are closed to people fishing. Boat will quadruple in price then the people who are house broke can't afford boats. It is all rediculous though. |
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| Why will boat prices go up? Seems like there will be less of a demand for a boat...so the prices will drop. Maybe I am missing something...very well could be. |
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| I can see float planes,,has the future  |
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| Prices would rise because companies will fail. And if they make 1k on 500 boats after labor etc... But now only sell 50 boats they need more mark up. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Inland boats represent the minority of total boats sold. Nothing would change other then maybe a decreased offering of aluminum fishing boats. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | I'm no dummy, but what the heck is meandered water and non-meandered water in laymans terms? Is it defined as waters surrounded by private property vs non-private property parcels? Water flowing in or out?
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| When they surveyed our state back in the late 1800s a Meandered body of water was one that was over 40 acres and seemed to be permanent. A Nonmeandered Water was under 40 acres and wasn't permanent like a slough. The problem is these sloughs over the years have turned into lakes overtaking private land. We have a trust in South Dakota that if we can access water without crossing privately owned land we can use it for recreational use. Some land owners don't think this is right because they are still paying taxes on the land. I totally understand where they are coming from. They need to make it fair both the land owners and the public. This could be by maybe cutting taxes or a bigger tax break for the land owners. I'm hoping they can figure out something because the state has spent a lot of money on ramps, stocking programs, netting programs and general maintenance of these lakes. Which is the money from fishing/hunting licenses and taxes . Time will tell on what our Legislative will come up with. Hopefully it's sooner than later.
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| If they are paying taxes on that land it solhould be very inexpensive... Maybe the next session of SD legislature should set aside "X" dollars to buy out the lake beds at fair price non negotiable style, then if and only if the water drops they have state owned wet lands that farmers can't drain in turn flood other people and habitat for tons of wild life. |
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