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fishingprovy
Posted 1/25/2010 4:06 PM (#419448)
Subject: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?




Posts: 268


Just curious if anyone could tell , what kind of knots are you using on flouro leaders, thinking about buying some and would like to know what all of you are using or would reccomend.
ttrap
Posted 1/25/2010 4:16 PM (#419449 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders????




Posts: 279


Do a google search for "flourocarbon knot and lee " it will show u step by step
jaycbs74
Posted 1/25/2010 5:25 PM (#419470 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders????





Posts: 136


Location: Chicago
I'm pretty sure a rapala knot not positive

Edited by jaycbs74 1/25/2010 5:26 PM
muskellunged
Posted 1/25/2010 6:04 PM (#419482 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders????





Location: Illinois
a Nail knot, google it
ttrap
Posted 1/25/2010 6:13 PM (#419485 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders????




Posts: 279


Pretty sure its neither of those...again search flourocarbon knots lee tauchen think that is the knot used for all stealth leaders. They've worked well for a lot of people.

Edited by ttrap 1/25/2010 6:19 PM
muskyfvr
Posted 1/25/2010 8:05 PM (#419515 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders????





Posts: 223


Location: Minn.
Centauri Knot,
http://www.livevideo.com/video/B5721BDAE10A4E9C8A948F31A5F36133/cen...
Jason Bomber
Posted 1/25/2010 9:38 PM (#419543 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders????





Posts: 574


I dont know what its called, but i've used Lee's knot for years now.

http://leetauchen.com/muskieguide/lees_leader_knot.pdf

Edited by Jason Bomber 1/25/2010 9:39 PM
ttrap
Posted 1/25/2010 10:17 PM (#419552 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?




Posts: 279


Thanks Jason that's the link I was talking about just could link it on my phone at work.
Dave T.
Posted 1/26/2010 7:32 PM (#419769 - in reply to #419552)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?





Posts: 512


what brand of flouro do you guys use/recommend?

thanks

Dave
Muskie4Life
Posted 1/26/2010 7:52 PM (#419780 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?




Posts: 105


Isn't Lee's knot a Centauri not, or did I miss something??

How big of line can you go up to and still do this knot?

Thanks
curleytail
Posted 1/26/2010 8:03 PM (#419785 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?




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Location: Hayward, WI
Lee's knot is the Centauri knot. I use it, and it's worked well for me so far. I use 150 pound Seaguar and it seems to tighten up pretty well. I do leave a loop in it and crimp the tag end. Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure Stealth uses a nail knot.

curleytail
Will Schultz
Posted 1/26/2010 9:16 PM (#419804 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
The knot shown in Lee's pics is not the Centauri knot but maybe it's supposed to be. The Centauri knot wraps up and the tag goes over and back through the loops, making a wrap over the stacked loops. The knot in Lee's diagram appears to wrap down with the tag running back through the loops and doesn't create a wrap over the loops. As shown in Lee's pics it is basically a nail knot.
muskie-addict
Posted 1/26/2010 10:32 PM (#419824 - in reply to #419804)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?




Posts: 272


Centauri
http://www.thaifishingguide.com/fishtechequip/techniques/knots/cent...

Nail
http://www.animatedknots.com/nailknot/index.php

If you look at Lee's PDF instructions, and then the centauri.....sure looks to me like you're tying the same knot. If it were the nail knot, the tag would be pointing toward the lure when you're done. The tag points away on Lee's and the centauri.

Whatever you call it, the one Lee shows is a rock solid knot that doesn't need glue or a crimp. A little tricky to tie with heavy fluoro. Tie it the way he shows, with your hands doing what his right and left hand are doing. I tried doing it with the left hand holding the loops and it was giving me fits. The loops kept rolling over each other.

-Eric
Guest
Posted 1/27/2010 7:29 AM (#419855 - in reply to #419824)
Subject: Re: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?


muskie-addict - 1/26/2010 10:32 PM
If you look at Lee's PDF instructions, and then the centauri.....sure looks to me like you're tying the same knot. If it were the nail knot, the tag would be pointing toward the lure when you're done. The tag points away on Lee's and the centauri.


http://www.fintalk.com/fishing-knots/nail-knot-loop.html
MUSKYLUND1
Posted 1/27/2010 5:02 PM (#420035 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: RE: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?




Posts: 203


Location: Germantown, WI
I've been using a Palomar knot for the last several years. It's a little tricky to tie with heavy flurocarbon, but it can be done. I've only done it with 80#. It might be a bit trickier with 100# or 130#. I've not had any bite offs or failures yet. Most of them muskies that I have caught over the last 3-4 years have been on my homemade fluorocarbon leaders.

There was a guy in our Muskies Inc chapter that gave a demonstration on how to make leaders a couple of years ago. He used a tool that he bought from Rollie and Helen's Musky Shop. It was pretty slick. I think it tied a nail knot. I've thought about buying one, but just never got around to it.
propster
Posted 1/27/2010 8:43 PM (#420119 - in reply to #419448)
Subject: RE: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?


The difference between the Centauri and Lee's version, whether intended to be a variation or not, is that as Lee makes the loops, he makes each succesive one going toward the snap, whereas with the Centauri each new loop is made going away from the snap. Then the tag is brought back toward the snap and put through the same way as Lee's. This is what causes the "overlap" of the line on the outside of the loops. Very similar though.
Lee_Tauchen
Posted 1/27/2010 11:56 PM (#420152 - in reply to #420119)
Subject: RE: what kind of knot for flourocarbon leaders?





Posts: 124


I don't know what kind of knot it is?

Lee Tauchen
http://LeeTauchen.com
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