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| Just wondering what the official World Record Muskie is?
I have read in some sites it says 69 pound 11 onces, and another that says 67 pounds, and a book that says 69 pounds 15 onces taken on the St. Lawrence River, New York in 1957. Now I don't want to hear about how it should be one place or not the other or any thing like that. I want to know what the official record is and where I can find it on the net.
Thanks
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Location: oswego, il | Since different fish are recognized by different organazations, pick the one you think is real. I think the malo fish is real, going with that one. |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | Todd, I'll second the Malo fish, unlike the two 69lbs fish the Malo fish just looks huge. Otherwise I'd say go with the one that is supposedly beyond a doubt, the 65lbs fish, Ken Obrien's I think? I've heard stuff that implies Cal Johnson's 67lbs maight not be legit.not sure on that though. |
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| Just catch one over 70 lbs and you can say you have the World Record.
nuff said.
Musk. |
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| I can't beleive there is soooo much confusion on this. Wayne Gretzky has the record for goals and asists and most points. No dispute! What is the unchallenged recored in the books official World Record. This must be somewhere! Our fishery is important enough to have this. This should not be like who is the World heavy weight champion of boxing type of thing here.
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| Howard Wagner recently caught and released a fish over 70 lbs on the St. Lawrence river. I'm suprised nobody has reported this catch yet. |
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Location: Belgium | PAAngler, did you actually hear that from howard himself or is it a rumour? If he didn't tell you himself, I would be careful with such information. |
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | Is Howard related to that Leah lady in california that says she released the world record largemouth and only her son witnessed it? |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA | Howard Wagner's fish was a sturgeon. He caught it while muskie fishing. |
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Location: Bagley,MN 56621 | Louis Spray
Oct20,1949-Chippewa Flowage
69# 11oz. (64 inches long I think)
I believe that is the official world record.
I'm thiniking O'Brien's is the Canadian record??
dunno, I'm confused as well
check out muskies101..discussing this topic as we speak. |
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Location: Wishin I Was Fishin' | The Spray fish is the one recognized by the Fishing Hall of Fame.
However, since Spray shot the fish to land it, the IGFA(something like that) doesn't recognize it, I think the one they recognize is the Cal Johnson fish.
Edited by Jomusky 12/9/2003 12:26 PM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I just read some of the argument over at 101 between Pete and a few others, and will say this: Whatever the standard was at the time of capture to establish a fish as a record should stand for that fish by the organization responsible in that timeframe, unless there is obvious and complete information to discredit the fish. If there is, the fish will still stand as legend, which sometimes replaces reality. What we need is a source that will accept ONLY absolutley indisputable weights and lengths, and have that ONE source as the offical record for all freshwater fish. The IGFA has pretty tough standards, and would get my vote. I think we are not far from a new established record muskie, ending all of this. If I am the lucky angler (yeah, right!) it will be the IGFA and Ministry or Department of Natural Resources I will rely on for proper registration. |
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Location: WI - Land of small muskies and big jawbones | I agree we need one and only one organization that determines world record fish. Why do we need two or three or however many there are? They can all make thier own rules to get the results they want the way it is now. It makes "professional wrestling" look like more of a legitimate sport than fishing. I'm nuts about musky fishing!!
Edited by Lockjaw 12/9/2003 1:36 PM
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Location: Chicago, Beverly | Obriens is the Canadian record. Everything I've heard about it has it properly weighed measured and witnessed. That's why I like that one as my next choice after Malo's. Malo's looks like what they said it weighed, also works out to the recorded weight using the formula on this sites home page. For me personally all the "was it or wasn't" stuff concerning both Spray and Lawton's fish make them seem too suspicious. One has been disqualified, the other never put up to the same type of examination(at least that I've heard of). As for the 70lbs Sturgeon while Musky fishing..nice, must have been a great battle. I just hope someone gets the record soon and does it all right so that the IGFA, NFHF, all the magazines, various DNR's and us can all say :Yep, thats the record fish, no doubt about it. |
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Location: Chippewa Falls Wisconsin | The record fish is out there. Every lake in the Wisconsin and Minnesota has been shocked. The DNR say they handled a muskie pushing 100 pounds in each of those lakes.
I get a kick out of the storys I hear every where I go. The story of the fisheries dude that handled the super muskie about 10 years ago off such and such point. You know the story...LOL |
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Location: Greenfield, WI | Just to establish the base line for all of us to use from here on out, I caught the world record muskie. It is a fish not a number.
I just caught it about 40 pounds premature! |
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Location: Hayward, Wisconsin | Steve & all:
Those "choosing" to submit their potential World Record Muskie to IGFA had better first read their rules. Some methods of capture that are legal in various states and provinces are NOT ALLOWED by IGFA rule. As Steve pointed out, the IGFA rules are strict. I believe too strict as it eliminates some options for muskie anglers.
As for their being only one organization keeping records, that was tried when I effected a merger between the National Fresh Water Fishing Hall of Fame (NFWFHOF or Hall)and IGFA (International Game Fish Association) and the IGFA was to be the sole "keeper" of records, sharing them with the Hall. They didn't keep their end of the bargin and the Hall had no choice but to get back into record keeping.
Spray's 69-11 record is not recognized by the IGFA because it was shot prior to landing (Legal at the time and never mind the fact that it was fought for 45 minutes first vs. the potential to net a fish on the first pass by the boat in the first minutes of fight, which IGFA allows...which method robs the fish of its ability to fight..."fairness" as inferred by IGFA rules?). The IGFA recognizes the 67-8 Cal Johnson muskie as their "All Tackle" World Record. New York still recognizes the 69-15 Lawton muskie as their record, even though both aforementioned record keeping organizations found more than sufficent evidence to "set it aside" (disqualify it).
Muskie regards,
Larry Ramsell
www.larryramsell.com
Edited by Larry Ramsell 12/11/2003 8:37 AM
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