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Location: Elgin, IL | Having a little problem with my kicker. So maybe someone can give an idea to my problem.
When trying to start: Pull choke, prime and use electric start, seems to begin to start but dies out right away.
Ended up using throttle only start which works, but dies when reducing idle. About halfway.
Took Carb apart and cleaned it out. Checked plugs. Gave a couple of pulls with plugs out. Afterward tried starting again but same issue. Same issue
What gives? Please advise.. |
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| Not sure if this will help, but I had a problem with my 9.9 pro kicker a few years ago. I had to take it in and get it totally cleaned including the lines. It would run wide open, but die as soon as it idled down. I now only burn non oxygenated gas and never put gas in with ethanol. I haven't had a problem since. |
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| If you know someone with a ultrsonic cleaner pull the carb down and run it thru a couple of cycles. Idle passages are very small dosent take much to clog them |
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Location: lake st clair michigan | check your fuel also it may have water in it
Edited by muskie-nick 8/20/2012 7:01 AM
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| esoxman1 is right just did it myself, there are tiny jet ports that must be opened and these are Very hard to see. I actually stripped a wire which had about 15 smaller wires in it and then used 1 of those wires to clean out the passages....Also replace the fuel line as some of them dissolve with Ethanol Gas used. Also get fresh gas with some Sea Foam in it ....Should do the trick........... Mike Sr.
Edited by cast4musky 8/20/2012 7:17 AM
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| ^ I would think the other motor would run poorly as they most likely share the same tank |
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Location: Elgin, IL | Appreciate the thoughts. Had used gas container with fresh fuel and quickleen as well. Figured it was a very small port as have heard about. Very frustrating as I'm trying to avoid having to take in for service. My mechanic is very nice, good and truthful so can't good guy to much. I'm sure I'll learn something from him.
Big motor runs well by the way...
P.S. Esoxman1 - do know of an ultrasonic but don't think the hospital would like me using it for this reason.
Edited by Flo Meister 8/20/2012 8:56 PM
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | Hiya,
The kicker has a choke and then a primer as well? If for some reason that is the case, it sounds like the engine is getting flooded. Next time you try and start it the way you mentioned, pull the plugs and just take a look at those...if they are wet, the engine is flooding out.
I would say before doing anything with taking it in, get it started and run it a while, then throttle down to as low as you can go. run it there for a bit and then go ahead and idle down further....then go until it dies... pull the plugs and take a look. If they are black, it will be just a quick carb adjustment.
My gut says it just needs adjusting or a rebuild kit. If the needle on the float sticks in a more open position, it will not run well at low speed, but will run fine at higher speeds.
Steve |
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| Same problems with mine. Run wide open just fine...idle down and it dies. Last year I went through the hassle of cleaning the carb. This year(seems to happen every spring) I just put 2 gallons of premium in a tank with a half a can of Seafoam and ran that through the engine for about an hour. Problem solved..
That Seafoam is GOOD STUFF!!! |
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Location: Elgin, IL | Was out and using my kicker and was remembering the helpful hints from a certain few.
Thanks many thanks.
Used Merc tuner, sea foam in fuel and most of all the invaluable strip of wire.
Something to definitly remember |
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| You should always, always use Sea Foam at every fill up. One ounce per gallon. No more problems. |
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| Mine does the same every time it goes without use for more than a few weeks in the summer. I got so sick of taking it to have the carb jets cleaned that the dealer just told me to run it dry after each use. Problem solved. When I am done trolling, I pull the fuel line and run it dry. Plug it back in when I want to troll next time out and it starts like it ran 5 minutes earlier, no choke or hard start. |
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Location: Elgin, IL | Did run it out and will do it from here on. Poured the remaining Sea foam into main tank.
Another lesson learned.
But here's another question then, how many more additives are needed? |
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| My opinion is to watch out on all the mechanic in a can fixes. Fuel lines and any rubber related to fuel will deteriorate much faster. I personally only keep my fuel tank at 1/4 and add fresh as needed |
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Location: Angola, IN | cast4musky - 8/20/2012 7:15 AM
replace the fuel line as some of them dissolve with Ethanol Gas used. Also get fresh gas with some Sea Foam in it ....Should do the trick........... Mike Sr.
Why worry about gas with ethanol and then put Seafoam in the fuel? Seafoam is just isopropyl alcohol, pale oil, and naphtha. But I do agree that running ethanol free gas in your boat is a good idea.
Your carbs are dirty. That's your problem. The only way to truly clean them is to take them apart, soak them, and spray the snot out of them with several cans of carb cleaner. It's not really that hard.
Seafoam might dissolve enough of the deposits left in your carb to get you back running. Any solvent might help. You could trying putting some Xylene or Toluene in there as well. If you are too lazy or incompetent to take your carbs apart, you can try opening the butterflies on your carb and filling the carb bowls with Carb Cleaner and let it sit for awhile. Try to start. Repeat a few times. Filling the carbs with Xylene or Toluene might work as well.
I've fixed and brought back to life a few motors in my day....and there is a product that I use over all else. It's called KREEN. You can put it in your gas or and it does an incredible just in your engine's crankcase. SUPER CLEANER on steroids!!!
Lastly, do NOT store your boat with Seafoam in the fuel. ONLY USE BLUE STABIL. Seafoam will cause oxidation and corrosion in your engine and carb's tiny openings and fittings.
NOTE: I like Seafoam. And I use it during the fishing season. I dump a 1/3 can in each of my 6 gallon tanks. I do this once or twice a year to keep things lubricated and clean. |
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| I have religiously used Seafoam during the winter in my boat (less than 1/3 tank of fuel) and never had one hint of a problem.
I sometimes use non-oxy gas, not always. I have a fuel/water separator on my boat, maybe that saves me. Before running the boat the next Spring I add 10 to 15 gallons of gas and more seafoam.
Maybe I have been lucky, but my experience with Stabil is less than stellar and most experts say its useful life is less than a month AND you better use it all right after opening it because the clock ticks the second you open it. |
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