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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | I have a Toro 5.4:1 and do like it. Would be interested in trying a comparable reel. Seems like the Curado 200E5 might be close....others? |
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| The Curado 200E5 is a true bass reel, and really wouldn't be appropriate for the majority of musky applications. You would not be able to get a reasonable amount of braid over 50lb spooled on the reel, and even then, you're IPT would be less than 20" throughout all but the end of a retrieve. Its not overly effective for any application, save perhaps short/accurate and slow/"musky finesse".
In my opinion, more comparable reels to the Toro 50 in terms of line capacity and power would be a Curado 300 or a Calcutta 300TE. |
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | I see the ratio on the 300s exceed 6:1. Does that limit the applications...ie....jerk baits, not buck tails? |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Cowboyhannah - 6/6/2011 9:31 PM
I have a Toro 5.4:1 and do like it. Would be interested in trying a comparable reel. Seems like the Curado 200E5 might be close....others?
What don't Ulike ???? the size ???? will U use this reel for Musky ??? what baits ????
The only other low profile reel is the Curado 300, but it only comes in 6.3:1 gears so top water, jerk baits, small bucktails that reel will handle.
Now in round reels U have the DAIWA 253, SHAIMANO 300 TE, OKUMA ISIS 250 and Cedros 250 |
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Location: Detroit River | Other than the reels already mentioned there's the Bass Pro Shops Johnny Morris JMX20HD. It's a wide spool, holds 160 yds of 12 Lb mono, 14 Lb drag, 6.4:1 (28" per crank). They try to sell it as a musky reel but not sure how it holds up.
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| the curado is supposed to be coming out coming out with a 500 size in the near future and daiwa has the saltist hard rock fish available in the curado 300 size and its 6 3 1 speed also. If you want a good low profile musky reel wait until one is made. They havent figured out a perfict low pro yet and getting away from abu is a good idea. they are not as nice as say a cvz 253 or luna 253 shimano te 300 and their narrow frames make them just as cumphy as a low pro. The curado is a nice reel but its very uncomphy to hold after a while. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | musky chimes - 6/7/2011 2:17 PM
the curado is supposed to be coming out coming out with a 500 size in the near future and daiwa has the saltist hard rock fish available in the curado 300 size and its 6 3 1 speed also. If you want a good low profile musky reel wait until one is made. They havent figured out a perfict low pro yet and getting away from abu is a good idea. they are not as nice as say a cvz 253 or luna 253 shimano te 300 and their narrow frames make them just as cumphy as a low pro. The curado is a nice reel but its very uncomphy to hold after a while.
So Y would U say to get away from a TORO is a good idea ????????
What makes U say that ????????? |
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | No, I like the toro 50 using mine for blades up to 8s and topwaters, I'm just curious to see if there are other products that would do so as well. Bummer to see it's being discontinued. |
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Location: Madison WI | I guess I will chime in on this topic, thought about it before but held off. I own both the curado 300E 6:2:1 and I also own 2 Toro 60's in the 5:4:1 gear ratio. Here is my take on the subject, the curado 300E is pretty comparable to the toro, the main differences between the 2 are the drag pressure, the toro has an engaging levelwind and the curado has a disengaging levelwind and the gear ratios. If you are using a toro 50 and it is comfortable for you to use all day then a Curado 300E will be comfortable as well. The NEW Curado 300E's also have the High Efficiency Gears comparable to the Calcutta TE. I mainly use my 300E for crankbaits, jerkbaits, topwaters and bucktails up to 8's. I will admit that the toro seems to handle the 8's better then the curado but it will still work. One key thing to note is that I have a power handle on my toro but not on my curado and the main reason for that is that it seems to mess up my crankbait and jerkbait retrieve. |
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| I did a bunch of fixing reels this year and i took apart a bunch of revo torro reels. They do have a wonderful drag and bearings all over but the thumbar mechanism is made from plastic and is supported only on the handle side of the reel. this isnt as big a deal as it is on the 60 but for what they want for these reels they should make them with better internal components. Anyone can upgrade their drag for around 20 bucks or less Smooth Drag washers are easy to put in and they make every reel better. The i owned 6 toros and one curado last summer. Every revo broke in a different way my 50 burned out in one trip. I didnt like how the curado fit my hand and it gave me a cramp. I finally gave up and went back to cans but in the narrow sizes and i couldnt be happier for the switch. The narrow cans are great and they hold plenty of super line for anything you might need it for. I will be checking out the new curado 500 that's supposed to be coming out but until then stick with the can and spend an extra 20 bucks on a smooth drag |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | musky chimes - 6/10/2011 1:49 AM
I did a bunch of fixing reels this year and i took apart a bunch of revo torro reels. They do have a wonderful drag and bearings all over but the thumbar mechanism is made from plastic and is supported only on the handle side of the reel. this isnt as big a deal as it is on the 60 but for what they want for these reels they should make them with better internal components. Anyone can upgrade their drag for around 20 bucks or less Smooth Drag washers are easy to put in and they make every reel better. The i owned 6 toros and one curado last summer. Every revo broke in a different way my 50 burned out in one trip. I didnt like how the curado fit my hand and it gave me a cramp. I finally gave up and went back to cans but in the narrow sizes and i couldnt be happier for the switch. The narrow cans are great and they hold plenty of super line for anything you might need it for. I will be checking out the new curado 500 that's supposed to be coming out but until then stick with the can and spend an extra 20 bucks on a smooth drag
I have a Reel Cleaning and Tuning business, at last count I have cleaned and tuned over 75 Toro reels, and not one has had any major repairs to them. You say you broke 6 Toro reels last year.
6 reels in one season WOW I hope you sent them back to ABU so they could fix them free for you, they have a 1 year warranty. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | musky chimes,
I'd agree with Pike Master. The thumb bar support isn't at all unacceptable made from that material, you need to study up on what the hi-performance hybrid plastics are used in everything from aircraft to reel applications.
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | Plastics is what I do for a living. Saying something is not good because it's made from plastics was a good statement in the 50's & 60's but that has all changed. I have material you cen drive a truck over and it won't break. Modern plastics are unbelievable. The type of plastic a particular part is molded from makes all the difference in the world.
I have no affliation with any reel company, but I do have 3 Toro's and so far so good. Second season on these w/o a hitch. |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | Speaking of Plastic, Daiwa is coming out with a new baitcastr at the 2011 ICAST show called T3 it is the first baitcaster to be made of plastic, it will have a body made of ZAION a fiber plastic. Here is pic of the new reel.
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | It's amazing some of the newer plastic compounds that are available out there. Self lubricating tough gear plastics and no break nylons. You could make a reel with no metal at all in it. First ones are not going to be cheap...but once perfected the parts get made by the thousands and pricing goes down. In five years we may be having some serious head scratching going on when it comes to reels. |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | Man, I just don't get how anyone has anything bad to say about the Revo Toro's... end all, be all? Of course not. But I'm pretty hard pressed right now to find another low-profile reel that can be used exclusively for musky gear. I've got all (3) Revo Toros and I honestly can't find one bad thing to say about them. They're smooth as a baby's butt and they do the job pretty darn well for a low-profile reel. Moreover, I can cast them all day long and never feel fatigued. They perform each and every time and I've not had a single thing go wrong. |
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