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Location: Central Pennsylvania | Hi all, so I’ve been considering the viability of throwing something like a 6-7” tube in the fall and winter (I fish a river and all of our biggest fish have been on small stuff). Is anyone throwing something like a gitzit 6” tube with a custom harness or even just Texas rigged for Muskies?
PS. Would love to hear about other “finesse rubber” techniques yinz have success on!
Don’t mention creatures, I already do that, caught one on a creature in March! |
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Location: Central Pennsylvania | PS. my area has predominantly tigers, they love small stuff. |
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| Joe Bucher wrote about using a 'wacky worm' rig on muskies while sight fishing. Looked very much like what bass fishermen use, just little bigger hook. |
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Location: Alberta Canada | Here is my thoughts from very little musky experience but lots of fishing experience so take this for what you feel it is worth
Fishermen often overthink lures especially when it comes to using things that may not have been designed for the species we are targeting. My thoughts are to pay attention to what the fish are eating and odds are if you pick a lure that is close to that profile, can be worked within the strike zone, works with the water conditions and can provide a decent action there is a good possibility it will work. It may not turn out to be a top producer but it’s worth a shot
I have caught a lot of fish in a wide range of species on less conventional lures
So simply put I say just give it a try. Personally I am a big fan of paddle tail and curly tails style soft plastics but nothing wrong with tubes either. |
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Location: Brighton CO. | A fishermen here in Colorado has caught and released many Northerns over 30 pounds by fishing a Bass sized Tube on 10 pound Mono and no leader on a Spinning rod. He cast's out let it sink to the bottom and walks it back along bottom. That simple. And when I go on a trip I never think to do that. (note to self) |
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Location: E. Tenn | 1/16 oz. jig, tipped with a 2" tail.. |
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Location: Central Pennsylvania | I also have considered 5-8" soft swimbaits on bass style weedless swimbait hooks. |
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Location: Alberta Canada | Pa Tigers n trout - 8/30/2023 7:04 AM
I also have considered 5-8" soft swimbaits on bass style weedless swimbait hooks.
If you want some good options to try look into the soft plastics designed for pike. If you are really motivated checkout what is being used in Europe as they have some great options. A lot of gear used in Europe for pike would likely go over well here for pike/musky |
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| Chaos should be mass releasing the 8" posiedon soon. A few shops have them. Personally I wasn't impressed with the action. |
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| 4” Bass tubes have caught plenty around here! |
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Location: NW WI | I do alot, show ya some examples(reg bulldawg for reference). But our applications are quite different I'm guessing, these mostly get thrown in shallow super weedy scenarios. But I don't see why u couldn't be the first person I know to try drop shoting one of these in a moving water, scent/ lube the hook slot like I do and let the flowing water and paddle do most of the work.
There's a close up of more of what your talking about. A 7" Tora Tube, stupid tube rigged with a 1oz Burde Bait Big Jig. It's a cheap rig, so go ahead and get your patterns and try the 1oz. And the 2oz jigs. I have not tried the 8" Tora yet. I prefer the 2oz just because it's easier to feel with the way I work it. I scuttle it on bottom for a bit than snap it up hard, your letting momentum rocket it up. From here you incorporate some jerks or taps or pulls while it's mid column or nothing at all,once ur done with that just keep your rod tip mid height and reel your slack and let it pendulum fall off your tight line. Rinse and repeat. The 2oz I like in rougher conditions or on cleaner bottoms because it's easier to feel. The 1oz is nice if your casting from the inside-out because you can jig the clean and than pop it up and quickly jerk it over the weeds.
The headbanger swimbait picture is just to show what a razor and a soldering Iron can do for ya in the rubber world.
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Location: NW WI | Forgot about these since they're not in my filth box.
So ya got a micro dawg with treble removed
U can buy spinner arms, snap rings,swivels,jig heads,plastics,and blades and create your own large beetle spin very cheaply.
I'm sure your aware of Savage Gear Sand Eels
Than you got 10" and 7" Lunker City Flukes
And devele dog spoon with an Owner 12/0 unweighted single hook texas rigged to a 8" Kalins.
Between both of these posts; these presentations advantages are also their biggest draw back. Guarded single hooks get you where nothing else will, but your gunna miss some and loose some rubber.
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Location: Central Pennsylvania | Jay, your approach to the technique is very interesting. What sort of rod and reel are you using or stuff like the stupid tube and the small swims? I could see fishing them on a heavy spinning setup. |
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Location: NW WI | So keep in mind I'm typically in the slop and in a seated Kayak when im doing some of these. High gear ratios are better to keep the fish high and landed quickly.
Lighter unweighted swimbaits, slightly weighted swimbaits+ frogs, and heavy bass/pike blades are getting thrown on a 7' Cashion Icon Jhon Crews Frog Rod. Used to run a 8:1 Abu Revo IKE with it, no complaints on that reel. But this year I switched to Kast King Speed Demon Dead Bolt, i don't remember if it's a 7:___ or and 8:___. But probably an eight. #50lb power pro.I lost some cast distance, she's noisy, but a dragless reel currently seems to be paying off, I have yet to catch anything of proper size to change my mind yet unfortunately.
Now this setup is my "Heavy" Rod for the Kayak or my Downsize/multispecies Rod in the boat. It can throw everything the previous can + the heavier swimbaits,small/medium musky blades and topwater. It's a Cashion Icon 7'10" Swimbait Rod with a Penn Fathom 300 7:3 with #65lb Suffix 131
The heavier Jigs, boat only, are getting thrown on a 8'6" chaos assault 2020 SWAT with a Revo Toro Beast T3 in I believe 6:3. With #80 Bucher Beast Braid (Not recommended).
U certainly could spin reel for a finesse approach. Just make sure your rod has the back bone to drive those guarded single hooks home and you'll be fine. |
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Location: Central Pennsylvania | I have a megabass valkyrie world expedition 7'11XH with a antares HG (with an aftermarket deep spool), it sounds like it'd be the right rod for the purpose. I also use it for swimbaits for bass |
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Location: PA Angler | This is what I make for them in rubber. If you’re interested send me a PM. Snake eye shad can also be used as a topwater.
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