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| I started going barbless on all my baits that use larger double - treble trebles hooks, mainly for safety after getting hooked with several large trebles over the years.
I replace the bait's hooks with trebles from Owner or Gamakatsu (since they are extremely sharp much better than the hooks that come with the baits (and they stay sharp for some time)). I use jerkbaits at least 1/2 the time so, often I have spend time balancing the baits after pinching down the barbs on the replacement hooks.
I wonder how many others on the forum go barbless and if so do you have many fish fall - come off prematurely?
Thanks for your experienced feedback, |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Do you have a lot of fish that come off? |
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Location: Sakatchewan,Canada | Barbless is the only way to go if you are worried about less injury to the fish. Since I have switched I have lost a couple but it's rare. Would I have lost those couple with barbs? Maybe... |
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Location: Eastern Ontario | I fished barbless for years especially when fishing alone not sure why I got away from it but have recently thought of going back. I'm sure I didn't land fewer fish because of it. I think the hook may go in as well as out easier. With the exception of Ontario much of Canada's big fish country is regulated barbless. |
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| imo it's hard to tell if you can blame the barbless for fish lost ,even with original hook you will lose some fish so.....the main problem occurs when they rush towards you,it create some really unwanted slack line .one thing that i like about owner st-36 is their lil barb,they are really easy on fish,so since i use them no more pinched barb for me,i just feel mentally better this way,so if i lose a big one i will not blame the pinched barb lol |
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Location: Ontario | The European Carp fishing community actually now changing it's mind about fishing barbless, since hooks are often moving and tearing the mouth of the fish. Not the same since Carp mouth is soft tissue but perhaps something to think about. |
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Location: Sakatchewan,Canada | Carp? Much easier to remove the 10/0's of a totally inhaled 2 pounder dawg if the barbs are gone. Carp and the European carp fishing community simply don't apply to the discussion since we are talking esox and esox lures... |
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| I personnaly finde that the benefite of bei g able to remove hooks with ease out of a fish, or yourself, outweights any disadvantage |
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Location: Ontario | Pike Master - 7/7/2017 12:11 PM
Carp? Much easier to remove the 10/0's of a totally inhaled 2 pounder dawg if the barbs are gone. Carp and the European carp fishing community simply don't apply to the discussion since we are talking esox and esox lures...
Don't know how about you but I would cut those anyway |
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| Pike Master - 7/7/2017 11:11 AM
Carp? Much easier to remove the 10/0's of a totally inhaled 2 pounder dawg if the barbs are gone. Carp and the European carp fishing community simply don't apply to the discussion since we are talking esox and esox lures...
so true |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | Barbless would really only make a difference on the hooks you are just going to pull out and not cut. The barb does little to no more damage than a barbless hook going in. It's when you take it out of a sensitive spot that it's going to make a difference. If the fish (esox) is hooked in or near the gills you are going to want to cut those even if they are barbless. A lot of times (at least me) it seems like if I'm pulling hooks out (especially baits with multiple trebles) I accidentaly end up re-hooking the fish somewhere else. But if you cut you don't have to worry about that because you aren't forcing hooks out and jerking the fish and bait around trying to get them out. |
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| I've been going barbless for many years and seem to have fish come unpinned about as often as friends that use them. We all have the highest chance when the fish hits far out on the cast it seems and better chances as the bait is closer to the boat. I like that un hooking goes that much faster and that if there is an oops and I take a hook into the hand, I'm doing a lot less damage to my own body. Particularly with a thrashing fish attached. |
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| Musky_Mo16 - 7/7/2017 4:59 PM
Barbless would really only make a difference on the hooks you are just going to pull out and not cut. QUOTE]
At >~ 4 dollars a piece for premium Gamakatsu or Owner treble hooks, I'm not in the habit of them of cutting them-off out every time I don't lip hook fish. I could go broke this way. It's been my experience that larger trebles often dig in deep. Also a fish can manage commonly hook itself on 2, 3 or more points simultaneously. If these are all barbed points, things can messy pretty quickly (based on my experience). |
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Location: Apparently where the Muskie aren't | NPike - 7/9/2017 6:45 PM
Musky_Mo16 - 7/7/2017 4:59 PM
Barbless would really only make a difference on the hooks you are just going to pull out and not cut. QUOTE]
At >~ 4 dollars a piece for premium Gamakatsu or Owner treble hooks, I'm not in the habit of them of cutting them-off out every time I don't lip hook fish. I could go broke this way. It's been my experience that larger trebles often dig in deep. Also a fish can manage commonly hook itself on 2, 3 or more points simultaneously. If these are all barbed points, things can messy pretty quickly (based on my experience).
Alright, I'll give you that one. I hope some day that I catch enough muskies I go broke from cutting hooks.lol. |
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| I pinch my barbs down. I think you can more easily lose a hooked fish with them pinched however, I also feel you will hook more fish that hit too. If its easier to take out its going to be relatively easier to go in. So maybe it'd mathematically add up to being a wash? That being the case, when a fish is hooked deep or in the gills, I guarantee the chances of survival of a fish caught on barbless hooks is WAY higher. That is why i do it in the end... since everything else seems to add up to a wash to me. |
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| Howdy,
I'm a barb pincher as well. Many reasons to do so and this has been debated on the board earlier. For me, the best reason of all is personal safety. If you fish alone a lot (I do) or with kids (my daughter is 12) the presence of a barb is not worth the risk to ones safety.
Take care,
Ruddiger |
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