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esox80
Posted 3/30/2016 12:19 PM (#811835)
Subject: Talon / shallow water anchor question





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Looking to rig out the new boat. Looking for opinions on Talons and competitor shallow water anchor systems. Also one or two? I am thinking only one because I can use spot hold on my troller if windy with one spike down. Also just less in the way off the back when casting, etc. My wife loves to fish panfish so a Talon would be helpful in the Spring. But I don't want it to get in the way of my musky fishing: casting, running around the boat, etc. So any of you guys got them on your boat, please offer opinions on how you like them, brands and one or two. Thanks,
jonnysled
Posted 3/30/2016 12:22 PM (#811836 - in reply to #811835)
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Location: minocqua, wi.
spot lock anchor feature on new TM's make it obsolete ... one brand makes an 8' model and the other makes a 12' model. best feature i've seen so-far is they look cool on the back of the boat.
BNelson
Posted 3/30/2016 12:25 PM (#811837 - in reply to #811835)
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Location: Contrarian Island
I think Gregg Thomas said his were the biggest waste of money on his boat... I'm sure some situations they come in handy but 99.5% of the time not needed
kjgmh
Posted 3/30/2016 12:36 PM (#811841 - in reply to #811835)
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Location: Hayward, WI
Not a fan of either, but if choosing a brand I think the Power Poles are better. I just don't like all the weight of the Talon hanging out that far and bouncing around. With Power Poles the pump is in the boat and much less weight hanging off the back of the boat. But for $2K each I can think of a lot better ways to spend the money.
sworrall
Posted 3/30/2016 12:37 PM (#811842 - in reply to #811835)
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I'm installing one on the X170T mostly for our crappie and gill fishing. Positive lock down without drift and constant compensation in stronger and gusting winds. I fished from a rig with the Power-Pole last year and loved it. Many of the walleye guys are using them too. I have a power anchor on the front of the boat if I need the boat absolutely stationary, so one unit for my ride.

Since my rig weighs in at under 1200# I am going with the Micro. Easy to deploy and out of the way when not in use.

http://power-pole.com/JLMarine/Power-Pole/Micro.aspx?P=PPA
Paul S
Posted 3/30/2016 12:49 PM (#811844 - in reply to #811842)
Subject: Re: Talon / shallow water anchor question




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Location: Tinley Park, IL
I LOVE my Talon and will have one or something similar on every boat I ever have. I use it multiple times every time I fish. It has changed the way I fish and definitely has put more fish in the boat. With one, your boat will rotate around and point downwind but you can easily adjust for it. If the cost is not a problem, having 2 is better than 1. While I have a Talon, I do like the PP and would closely consider one if I were buying all over again. PPs are quieter and lighter than the Talon but the Talon doesn't need the hydraulic tank in the boat.. I have the 12' which is the longest that is made.

The Talon is also helpful at the launch, retying, or just having a sandwich. Overall, having a Talon makes fishing more enjoyable for me.
Mojo1269
Posted 3/30/2016 12:50 PM (#811845 - in reply to #811835)
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They are both a great tool and its hard to go wrong with either. I have fished out of boats with them since 2011 and had one on my Ranger since 2013. I prefer the Hydraulic Tooling on the PP over the Talon. They make up to a 10 Foot option. The Talon has a 12 foot option; If you fish alone at all they are worth there weight in gold. If you launch and load your boat at busy lakes, also worth their weight in gold. Move a fish on a wind swept point where Spot Lock is just not going to work (on either brand) due to high gusts, drop you PP or Talon to work the fish. Even with two (or more) people in a boat it can reduce the sh&% show that can go on if a fish is hooked near a reef or any other hazard. I can not imagine owning a boat with out one. Just my two cents as a guy that uses one...
Fishysam
Posted 3/30/2016 1:32 PM (#811856 - in reply to #811835)
Subject: Re: Talon / shallow water anchor question




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I had a 12' tallon on a 2090 warrior, loved it. Got a new bass boat and had dual 10' power pole blades put on it. I will always have anchor(s) from now on!

As far as in the way? No way, now tallons and a vertical clearance issue they make a tilt bracket, and blades just deploy some to get under bridges or garage doors.

At the ramp (off the concrete). Relaxing. Hooked up. Thoroughly working an area. If you fish in 9' of water of less at all they are awesome. Beaching no need to tie up to a tree or throw an actual anchor on shore. My boats do not touch docks any more and I fish alone a lot.

I am not sure that power poles are quieter than talons or not, it's a wash but I know they are both much quieter and stationary than my 101 I pilot link on spot lock.

I put two blades on the new boat to try an accessory, the drift paddles. They work great for boat control and you don't loose any function of the anchor but they are annoying when it isn't windy so I just pull them off most of the time. ( even my blades "without drift paddles" sunken 5.5' slow my drift from 1.2mph to .6mph.)

Now as far as spinning down wind with one tallon that was to be expected, but I am a bit disappointed of how far the 10' blades will spin down wind. And I would be willing to bet that 8' models will spin much less based on leverage. Now they both hold awesome and you can manipulate the power pole a bit more without effort if your in extreme winds or current.

If I were to do it again I would put 2 12' tallons on. I like how it's a simpler design, no hydraulic pumps, fluid, resivoir, lines. Just a power cord. Any questions just ask and I bet I have experienced it. Stuck in mud and can't get a tallon to retract? Port-starboard dancing will loosen the MUDs grip and let it come back without damaging it.

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Mojo1269
Posted 3/30/2016 4:40 PM (#811895 - in reply to #811835)
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Either company could use this as there marketing campaign.... "Don't be this guy"....


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materospizza
Posted 3/31/2016 12:13 AM (#811965 - in reply to #811835)
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I had Talons on last years boat and really liked them! Hope to be installing 2 on my new to me Skeeter MX soon.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h182/Flattracker60/Screenshot_201...

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esoxfly
Posted 3/31/2016 12:24 AM (#811966 - in reply to #811835)
Subject: Re: Talon / shallow water anchor question





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Location: Kodiak, AK
I've fished dual PP's since 08 or 09. Love em. Use them all the time and find new uses still. No, they don't anchor as solid as they depict in the commercials, but you'll learn the best bottom to use them on and what will hold and what won't. I also have the Drift Paddles and they're probably the best feature on them for open water fishing. I got laughed off the internet when I said I was going to use them up here. Same with the Riptide, but now I have people here asking me about them and where to get some...."can you get those on Amazon?" They work, but they're not for everyone.
esox80
Posted 3/31/2016 9:47 AM (#812005 - in reply to #811835)
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Hey thanks a lot for all the feedback Fellas. I greatly appreciate it. My new Lund 1875 Pro V XS is being built as we speak. This is my last project for rigging it out. I appreciate the help.
Jeff
dhacker
Posted 3/31/2016 9:52 AM (#812008 - in reply to #811835)
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Location: Elk River, MN
Love ours - we have also used it when caught on the lake during a storm we get to shore and anchor down so the boat doesn't move
FloridaRigger
Posted 4/2/2016 8:16 AM (#812271 - in reply to #811835)
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I put a manual stake out pole on my lund. cheap and effective. I store the 8ft pole in the rod locker
http://dig-in-anchors.com/

Paul S
Posted 4/2/2016 8:31 AM (#812274 - in reply to #812271)
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Location: Tinley Park, IL
I am headed for a spring fishing trip next week and every day is forecast to have 15-20 mi/hr winds. I already know that my Talon will be a major part of my gameplan. In the past, I would be angry about these conditions and consider changing my plans but now I just adjust. I'll get to a spot put the Talon down and fish. Spend 10-15 and then move.

Last summer, I was on a Great Lakes bay and it was pretty windy and a very busy day. I got to my preferred spot at daylight, put down the Talon, and stayed there for about 5 hours. Guys came all around me and the wind was a major obstacle. I just hunkered down, fished slow, fished a bunch of different presentations, and caught a lot of fish. If I had been in the local tournament that day, I would have won. These are just a couple examples of how the Talon has changed my fishing.
Fishysam
Posted 4/2/2016 10:31 AM (#812289 - in reply to #811835)
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I also had a day where after fishing many hours my dad and his needed a break, and I could relax some. Anchored on the spot on the spot for an hour changing lures every 8-10 minutes. Then I got a nice 48" after an hour +. I was able to replicate this a week later both days were over 20mph wind and large waves.
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