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Message Subject: Line 65 or 80
Lund1625
Posted 6/29/2012 10:00 AM (#568249)
Subject: Line 65 or 80




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Hi Guys, I'm new this site but a long time musky nut.
My question is 65 or 80 lb braid? I've been using 80 lb power pro for several years now. My reels are Curado and Calcutta 300's where 65 may be a better choice because of spool size. So the question, Is 65 lb sufficient? Do you throw double 10's on 65? Any problems?
wicked
Posted 6/29/2012 10:18 AM (#568252 - in reply to #568249)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80




Location: sneaking out to get on the water ;-)
I really like the 80 lb better.It's not that much bigger of a diameter and I fish the river systems alot where the 80 lb has gotten my bait back out of snags.Also had the 65 break a couple times on backlashes with bull dawgs. Russ
catchandrelease
Posted 6/29/2012 10:23 AM (#568254 - in reply to #568249)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80




65lb is sufficient as long as you're using a lighter lure. If you get a backlash with a heavy lure there's a much higher chance your line could break. I primarily throw lures in the 2 to 3 oz range with 65lb and I've yet to have an issue.

I throw Cowgirls on 80lb, but the rod I throw them on is also used for Bull Dawgs and heavier lures in general. I would say you could get by with 65lb, but you have more security with 80lb.
gregk9
Posted 6/29/2012 11:24 AM (#568273 - in reply to #568252)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80





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Location: North Central IL USA
wicked - 6/29/2012 10:18 AM

.Also had the 65 break a couple times on backlashes with bull dawgs. Russ


What do you mean by this - you throw the lure, the backlash causes the sudden stop which causes the line to break in half?
Lund1625
Posted 6/29/2012 11:58 AM (#568281 - in reply to #568273)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80




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When I did use 65, I had the line break on a backlash. I would try to get a little extra on the cast and backlash, and the line would break near the rod tip and the lure would sail out of site. So I switched to 80. But when I did use 65, I never broke off a fish or broke on a hookset. So has anyone had 65 fail on a fish? Al
cast10K
Posted 6/29/2012 1:03 PM (#568294 - in reply to #568273)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80




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Location: Eagan, MN
gregk9 - 6/29/2012 11:24 AM

wicked - 6/29/2012 10:18 AM

.Also had the 65 break a couple times on backlashes with bull dawgs. Russ


What do you mean by this - you throw the lure, the backlash causes the sudden stop which causes the line to break in half?


I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he means. Yes, heavy lures can break light line on a backlash. I use lines ranging from 65 on my light bucktail/topwater setup, up to 100 on my heavy rig. Matching rod, line and lure is the key.
jakejusa
Posted 6/29/2012 1:17 PM (#568299 - in reply to #568249)
Subject: RE: Line 65 or 80




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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan!
I used to run 65 on my lighter outfits and then 80 & 100. After having clients cast off lures on the 65 lb test so many times... 80# is my NEW light line. I still have some 65 around which I use on bass flippin' stiks & early spring fishing. But if you are buying a bulk spool, I would go to 80 lb. and get your money's worth.
PIKEMASTER
Posted 6/29/2012 2:51 PM (#568320 - in reply to #568249)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80





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65lb Braid is OK for 2oz and under baits, over that use 80lb braid and any bait over 6oz use 100lb Braid
If you want a nice casting braid for your Curado try Daiwa Samurai Braid, very small dia and it is 8 weave


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wicked
Posted 6/30/2012 9:55 PM (#568492 - in reply to #568273)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80




Location: sneaking out to get on the water ;-)
gregk9 - 6/29/2012 11:24 AM

wicked - 6/29/2012 10:18 AM

.Also had the 65 break a couple times on backlashes with bull dawgs. Russ


What do you mean by this - you throw the lure, the backlash causes the sudden stop which causes the line to break in half?


hey greg, yeah that's exactly what I mean I've had it happen with the 65 lb braid mostly on bull dawgs but also with a couple of heavier topwaters. switched to 80 lb and knock on wood it has held up for the last 2 seasons with no issues.Don't notice any difference in casting or lure action. Russ
Ruddiger
Posted 7/1/2012 9:29 AM (#568510 - in reply to #568492)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80




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Howdy,

I've been going back and forth on this as well, particularly when it comes to spooling a Curado 300, which can get its line level lower than I want when I spool it with 80 pound Spectron and do a bomb cast.

One thought that I keep going back to is that once you get to the point where 65 or 80 or even 100 pound line may break..... somethings gonna break. What I mean is, if the line doesn't snap something in the reel will.

A couple of years ago I inadvertently tightened my drag to the max with a Calcutta 400 with the intention of rolling it back to the level I wanted. Inevitable I got distracted, forgot to do it, and ended up getting a bad backlash on a power cast with a DCG (hardly a heavy lure by modern standards). Once I got it all worked out and took my next cast there was a noticeable grind in the reel at the same point of each revolution of the handle.

In the end it was a drive gear that got ground up, but it could easily have been a bent spool shaft or something else, particularly if it was a Mag Dawg or more. My point is that were throwing heavy baits that would have been inconceivable 15 years ago. Even with 200 pound line something has to give, and will give.

If I had to pick between two terrible options, lose a lure or damage a reel, I would rather lose the lure, as terrible as that would be. Just my two cents....

Take care,

Ruddiger
Kingfisher
Posted 7/1/2012 10:16 AM (#568517 - in reply to #568510)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80




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Location: Muskegon Michigan
I use 40, 65 and 100 pound Power Pro. Match the line weight to the lure weight and you are Golden. I have a bass mag flippin stick with small Phluger Trion spooled with 40 pound Power pro. I throw small baits with this rig. Nothing bigger then a 205 Crane or #6 Mepps. From there My main rods are spooled with 65 throwing mid size Bucktails and cranks. I skip 80 and go right to 100 for Dawgs, double 10's AND ANY OTHER large lure that has big hooks. I have never broke off on a fish using any of them. Mike
Kleck
Posted 7/1/2012 8:29 PM (#568581 - in reply to #568249)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80




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My main rigs have 80lbs Power Pro. My lighter rig has 50lbs TUF-line which is actually 67lbs. Love the original TUF-line, but it's getting harder to find.
gregk9
Posted 7/1/2012 11:13 PM (#568600 - in reply to #568510)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80





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Location: North Central IL USA
Ruddiger - 7/1/2012 9:29 AM



If I had to pick between two terrible options, lose a lure or damage a reel, I would rather lose the lure, as terrible as that would be. Just my two cents....



Good point!

I have my Curado 300 & abu revo toro spooled up with 65 pound power pro. Haven't had any back lash problems to date.
karol
Posted 7/4/2012 8:25 PM (#569199 - in reply to #568600)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80




Posts: 576


Location: nappanee IN
would 65 lb power pro work for full size depthraiders?
catchandrelease
Posted 7/4/2012 8:38 PM (#569201 - in reply to #569199)
Subject: Re: Line 65 or 80




karol - 7/4/2012 9:25 PM

would 65 lb power pro work for full size depthraiders?


They only weigh a little over 2 ounces, so 65lb should be fine.
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