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| What do you think is the point in a presentation of a jerkbait that makes the fish EAT IT!? |
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| I belive its the instant following the last fastest movement of the bait. Either by sight or by feel that movement has just given off the lagest vibration, or the most flash. IMO, but what do I know?
Ryan |
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| It has been my experience, that muskies will normally strike when the jerk bait has come to a pause during the normal cadence of retrieve. IE: If your throwing a Suick around, muskies will more than likely hit it at the exact moment that you are about to make another sweep with your rod. This almost always equates to the period of time when the Suick will want to start climbing toward the surface.
Mike G.
www.mrgmuskies.com
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| The pause in the jerking motion is the trigger. At this point, the lure looks to be at it's most weakest. Easy meal for the predator. |
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| My opinion!
Its the first two twitchs that count the most. Take the Suick for instance. The first two pops get 75% of the fish same with the Undertaker and Reef Hawg.
I think the trick is to start out with quick change up, then pause then continue. Hopefully the only continue you have to do is fighting the fish. |
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| I agree with Jason with the exception of a late death rise with the suick. It has boated a few fish for me this year. |
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| Jason, I have to disagree here. Your scientific statistics of 75% in the first two pulls indicates to me that your casting presentation is landing in the "fish zone" and that you are getting the hungry fish bites from nearbye fish that have been presented a target that fits within the expected range of forage they are hunting. I don't think these fish have a whole lot to do with triggers, the bait landing and moving was trigger enough. As long as you get a decent action here many baits will adequately bring a strike.
If there is something a bait does that brings a strike from a fish that maybe wasn't already looking to eat something I believe it has to two specific things, look vulnerable and in some way allow the musky to, or present itself in a manner that the fish can, "set up positionally" for the strike. Both of those features seem to increase fish/bait contact. |
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| The first 1/4 of your cast gets most of the action, this seems to be because the bait is placed in the best zone, the weed edge or structure for example. The spash then the easy meal look the fish gets from a Suick seem to trigger the strikes fast. Then the dead rise 10 foot from the boat seems to be the next triggering effect that works for me. Only one muskie this year hit one of my Suicks at boat side on the first leg of a figure 8. Be ready as soon as your bait hits the water, keep your rod in position for a good hook set, remember you have lots of line out at this point. |
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| Since I fish current breaks alot, my take is a bit different. I have to constantly keep vigil on my lure(I like to use bright ones in the river so I can see it) and know when it hits a slack spot. I always try to twitch once or twice into the slack and try to get the bait as perpindicular to me(on the glide) as I can and pause. The slack water pause is the best trigger I have in my arsenal, and counts for about half or more of my fish per year(almost 90% in the early part of the season). I get most of my fish very close to the boat or shore, or on the second or third twitch(but more for me come in close quarters, just because of where I'm fishing as I keep myself or my boat right on the break). |
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| Change ups and pauses and dead rises...All triggering effects when in the ZONE.
Is it just me, or is the middle of the retrieve just a waste of time.[;)] |
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| Jason, its just you.
I don't keep detailed enough logs to provide any kind of statistic.... but I haven't noticed a higher percentage of fish coming from any one point in my retrieve.... especially with jerkbaits. My boat control varies from spot to spot, time of day, weather conditions, type of water, and god knows what else (gut feeling?). So, sometimes the "ZONE" is the first six feet of the retrieve.... others its mid retrieve.... and many times it is boatside. With jerkbaits.... I maintain erratic action through all points of the retrieve... so if the strike triggering affects are the bursts of speed, pauses, belly roll, etc. than no point in my retrieve should be more effective than the other.
Personally, I like how FSF put it above. I believe you can unknowingly (because you never know where the ski is at) position your lure so it is more vulnerable to a strike. Thus, Schillinger's comment about turning the lure as perpendicular to your direction of retrieve during your pause can be critical. A broadside target to a following fish is EXACTLY what the musky is looking for in my opinion. For many people, it is easier to get a lure to "turn" when it is farther from the boat... so maybe.. just maybe... that is why people are seeing more fish at that point? Personally, I've seen no difference. |
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| Good Posts.
My theory why they are so effective, (expecialy with gliders) is how fast the bait is accelerated. Like a birdie commin of a badmitton racket, the speed is incredible until it hits resistence. It would be very intersting if someone did a study of how fast a glider accelerates/ compared to how fast a perch can accelerate.
We can't accelerate any other bait as fast just by realing. its this quick burst of a jerkbait which simulates a fleeing baitfish that make the big girls come a runnin.
"Tah Da Gills" |
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| “If it moves it’s food” - DJ |
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| You're right jlong. That has helped me so much in my hook ups. I used to have(and still do on quite the occasion but not as much) so many more fish blow out on a hit in current or cover when I'd twitch the glider too soon after a pause. Now that I've developed a sort of sense where the fish hold(one needs to almost visualize a fish either following, or hiding behind a rock, current break etc for best results) I can get that bait to "set" correctly where I want it to. Having the lure somewhat perpindicular to me on a normal retrieve, or perpindicular to the rock or to the current "line" helps them grab it with ease. Both fish that came on gliders yesterday were in tiny pockets where multiple casts had to be taken to get the lure positioned correctly in the hole(kind of like trout fishing but thats another story). |
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