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tmag
Posted 12/16/2007 10:57 PM (#289332)
Subject: Foil Question




Posts: 516


Hey Guys,

Silver foil seems to be fairly easy to find. I was wondering if anyone knows where someone can find different colored foils (i.e. gold, copper, reds, blues, etc.)?

Thanks

Grunt Lures
Posted 12/17/2007 9:33 AM (#289353 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: Re: Foil Question





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Location: Minnesota
Any hobby store has different colors of foil. You can also use mylar or other reflective sheets of material.
LaPala
Posted 12/18/2007 8:08 PM (#289598 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: RE: Foil Question


Painting silver foil with candy (transperant) colors gives you the other foils colors. Gold is yellow.

Regards,
LaPala
tmag
Posted 12/18/2007 9:12 PM (#289603 - in reply to #289598)
Subject: RE: Foil Question




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And painting over the foil won't affect the flash quality of the foil?
RiverMan
Posted 12/18/2007 11:18 PM (#289609 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: Re: Foil Question




Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
Hey good to see you here Lapala!! For those that don't know Lapala, he is a very knowledgable lure builder and a great addition to this forum!!

Jed V.
Allstate48
Posted 12/19/2007 3:48 AM (#289619 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: RE: Foil Question




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Location: Corning, Iowa
Do you clear coat before you paint over the foil? Thanks Doug
LaPala
Posted 12/19/2007 3:41 PM (#289700 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: RE: Foil Question


LOL Jed, you exposed me. Just happen to drop by from link passed to me. Some cool stuff here too, I'll try and drop in more frequently.

Only a very thin coat of candy color is needed to colorize foil. Try wiping ur store bought colored foil with thinner, the color comes off so why not DIY

As for how shiny the foil remains that will have to depend on how shiny was ur foil to start with; candy color transparency & how thin an even layer you can apply.
Musky Snax
Posted 12/19/2007 6:50 PM (#289730 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: Re: Foil Question





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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada
Just a little note on the use of candy colors... They need to be mixed with a binder usually a transparent base coat which is paint without pigment. True candy colors are dyes and have no adhesion of their own other than just staining the surface.
Also the more layers of candy you lay down the darker they get. Hope this helps!
Swede
Posted 12/20/2007 4:52 AM (#289802 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: Re: Foil Question




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If you follow Snax advice & dips in prop you can get amazing results like shadings & depths in your paintjob.
Like paint base ,dip in transparent clear base (waterbased) heatset, dip in prop few times shoot 1 layer of candy 1 dip in transparent cc another few dips in propsolution .Then you´ll get some weird paintjobs looking like no other job
The Nate
Posted 12/20/2007 9:06 AM (#289826 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: Re: Foil Question





Doug,

From my experiences with foil I found it tow work better clearing over the foil then painting, then clearing again. And as everyone else said candy coat over foil works pretty excellently.

Musky Snax
Posted 12/20/2007 9:14 AM (#289827 - in reply to #289332)
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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada
Be absolutely sure to clean off any residual oils from your fingers from the foil before painting or you will risk loss of adhesion of whatever you put on top of it. A clear adhesion promoter may help if you want to be 100% sure that your paints will stick.

Oh, by the way, congrats on your swimbaits Nate! You've done an amazing job of designing and getting them out there. I remember checking out the Japanese swimbaits back when they first came out and thinking #*^@ those are cool, I've got to learn how to make those! Thanks to you telling me about how strong the joints are when using the two screw eyes and a pin I now make my own that way.

Edited by Musky Snax 12/20/2007 9:19 AM
Allstate48
Posted 12/20/2007 5:28 PM (#289891 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: Re: Foil Question




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Location: Corning, Iowa
Off the subject a little. Remember back when everyone wanted easy on clear coat, that didn't weigh anything? Someone came up with spray can envirotex. I have some, and was wondering, if this will work for an in between coat? Like different coats of paint, stencils, on foil. Or what ever. I've used it some, on small baits that the grandkids made. I know it's not as good as the rest, but maybe? Thanks Doug
Musky Snax
Posted 12/20/2007 5:48 PM (#289893 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: Re: Foil Question





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Location: Muskoka Ontario,Canada
Doug that should work very well as an intercoat clear. Just be sure that whatever it goes over is clean with no finger prints etc. Also scuff it up with a 600 grit sand paper prior to painting back over it to ensure adhesion.
tmag
Posted 12/21/2007 3:19 PM (#290049 - in reply to #289332)
Subject: RE: Foil Question




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Anyone have pictures of finished paint jobs reflecting some of these foil wonders?
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