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The Yeti
Posted 11/16/2005 1:37 AM (#165565)
Subject: What rod can throw


a 1.5 pound 16" glder bait. i'll be needing to know.

HR Johnny, care to chime in on this one?

bikinibaitcompany.com
MuskieMike
Posted 11/16/2005 1:50 AM (#165567 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw





Location: Des Moines IA
Tuna Stick ........ Rated to 130 lb line ...... maybe something like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-NEW-DAIWA-56-STAND-UP-RODS-50-130LB-TUNA-STIC...
Or have a custom rod builder build you a Super X Heavy?????
tomcat
Posted 11/16/2005 6:49 AM (#165576 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw





Posts: 743


Lamiglas made a 6'10" Hughes Rivers Custom Jerbait rod...it's rated for HEAVY heavy lures
it's the GC6108....it's no longer made...BUT..they do make the the LGM 6108, but i have never seen it or used it. shop around/look around for this rod...it IS THE ROD you want for this application. this rod can handle this bait you have..plus it doesnt weight 15 pounds

Then, there are Lamigals E Glass Series..no longer made either..but they had had a few from 6 foot to 7 foot that could throw that bait too...i have one.

One guy suggestion buying a trolling rod like they use for Tuna..i highly recommend NOT doing not that...i'm guessing this guy never tried using a saltwater trolling rod for casting, or he would have never suggested it. those rods weight a ton and are NOT user friendly for casting..NOT.

whatever you get, dont get a rod that is rates for 1 oz lures to up 5 or 8 oz...get a rod that starts at 2 oz lures or or 3 oz or 4 oz lures and up..

if you look around for a while online and ask, you can find that Lamiglas HR rod..it will be used. i have not seen used the new LGM 6108 but lamiglas emailed me back and said it's the same blank..so that rod would work too.

YETI..get you a$$ back in the wood man.

tomcat

Edited by tomcat 11/16/2005 6:50 AM
sally
Posted 11/16/2005 9:48 AM (#165596 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw


1.5 pounds is crazy-big especially for casting. I don't know if you will ever find a rod that will do the work for you with that load...just cut a foot off a normal jerkbait rod and lob away. A bigger question will be what kind of rope will you use to cast that monster--200#? The e-glass is pretty soft...if your super-bait works itself, that will be fine but if it requires any snap then you will want something stiffer. Go with lower-end graphite like the old premiers so there's some flex and durability.
Talk to Keith at Professional Edge--he sells mostly diamondback but has some low-modulous stuff, too and will build-to-suite: www.professionaledgefishingrods.com or call 612-802-4629.

Keith is a super nice guy and great to work with. Call him and he'll give you the straight scoop.
VMS
Posted 11/16/2005 10:04 AM (#165598 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw





Posts: 3480


Location: Elk River, Minnesota
I've got a pretty straight 7' pool cue that I could whip up some line guides on...a little duct tape here, a little there...some more to hold the reel in place and you'd be all set.

You'd have the Red Green signature series rod...manufactured by brunswick-3M



I don't know if you would ever be able to find a rod that would handle such weight... Good luck on your search though.. May you catch a monster with it!!

Steve
Guest
Posted 11/16/2005 10:30 AM (#165600 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw


DON'T BACKLASH!!!!

OH WAIT, WEAR SAFETY GOGGLES AND DON'T BACKLASH!!!!
tomcat
Posted 11/16/2005 11:07 AM (#165603 - in reply to #165596)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw





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" The e-glass is pretty soft..."
you cant bend my E Glass with a Mack truck..let alone a lure. i use it for suckers, casting 13" grannies, Pounder Dawgs, 10" Jakes...i'm sure they make different rods within the E Glass series..but i throw alot of big baits..more than most...as far as big bait rods go...an Extra Heavy E Glass has LOTS OF A$$
The Yeti
Posted 11/16/2005 11:21 PM (#165673 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw


thanx fellas. at this point, i don't know what to do. i just dont know if i'd trust a rod rated for 2-10 or 2-8 ounces. i might contact keith and have a custom made. problem is, i'm a fairly tall guy, and under 7 ft rods just don't feel right to me, i'm clumsy enough, i need all the control i can get.
i dont usually bombcast, and have pretty good control over my casts in general. i don't cast over my shoulder, most times, i backhand cast/flip when i can get away with it. 80 spectron wont do it for this rod, probably some 120 or higher if i can find it. but thats not the issue.

by the way, anyone in the pittsburgh pa area need a partner during this lonely fall, im game. my boats in the repair shop, so im a$$ out until feb/march.
hit me up [email protected]

Edited by The Yeti 11/16/2005 11:22 PM
Magruter
Posted 11/17/2005 9:29 AM (#165712 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw





Posts: 1316


Location: Madison, WI
Heck all you need to do is grab a normal rod and.... ....Move to spot you would have finished you cast>> put lure in the water>> open bail>>Turn trolling motor on>>Move in direction you would have started your cast from>>Stop boat> and work the lure in. I would never want a cast something that heavy... I love fishing, but that just doesn't sound enjoyable.

Edited by Magruter 11/17/2005 9:29 AM
jnelson
Posted 11/17/2005 8:41 PM (#165777 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw




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I made a glider similar in specs to that, I just use m 6'9" st. croix jerk and don't get carried away when casting. Haven't broke yet big baits rule I can get 4' and 5' glides out of mine.
RiverMan
Posted 11/17/2005 11:31 PM (#165791 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw




Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
The comments about heavy line are exactly right. I broke off a bait today that weighed more than a pound while testing it. I was using 65pd PowerPro, snapped it like thread on the cast. I have no idea why it broke either, didn't even seem to be a backlash of any kind. The other thing I notice while testing the big baits is that they take a major toll on the wrist and hand...and I am not a small guy. If I were looking for a set-up specifically for big baits I would look for:

1. A rod that is very heavy, no action at the tip at all, but not too short...maybe 7';

2. Something very light (talking about physical weight) because of the demand on your wrist and hand from throwing the beast. You don't want to be fighting a really heavy bait and a really heavy rod/reel combo at the same time;

3. Heavy line, minimum 120pd test...I would probably go heavier just to be safe, you don't want to lose that monster bait.

All of this said, I have had guys write me that throw these things all day long and love them!!

GT, if you want write me and I will provide you with the email of a guy that throws these on a regular basis for stripers, he can help I am sure.


Jed V.
Bikini Bait Co.

Edited by RiverMan 11/17/2005 11:34 PM
Magruter
Posted 11/18/2005 6:59 AM (#165803 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw





Posts: 1316


Location: Madison, WI
I would think you'd want to stay away from superbraids and go with something with a thicker diameter. My understanding is thicker diameters absorb the shock of a backlash and just casting much better than supers.
RiverMan
Posted 11/18/2005 8:12 PM (#165895 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw




Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
GT,

I noticed today that the reason that big bait broke off was the line had wrapped on the worm gear on my Shimano Baitcast....snap.

The fella I told you about that fishes for stripers told me they run medium action salt-water rods. He said this about line: "We use the 80 with 8-12inch plugs, & 100/200 with plugs 13-23inches.And I nor none of my friends ever lost one".

Hope this helps.

Jed V.
BBC

Edited by RiverMan 11/18/2005 8:15 PM
The Yeti
Posted 11/19/2005 4:39 PM (#165930 - in reply to #165565)
Subject: RE: What rod can throw


Thanx Jed.
im goin to explore a few options. especially, i will be upping the lb test i use. i like the sound of that 135 spectra. we'll see what happens, gotta figure out what rod im goin to use first.

thanx again guys.

ps, Jed, i hope you got that bait back!!!

Edited by The Yeti 11/20/2005 12:50 AM
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