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MuskieFever
Posted 6/17/2010 8:28 PM (#446115)
Subject: Hooking Up on the 8




Posts: 572


Location: Maplewood, MN
This season so far has been fairly frustrating with numerous follows, but hardly any that will eat. I am usually fishing the MN metro and I always try to throw something that isn't too common. I've always heard of grubs on bucktails and so forth, but what are your tricks to converting lookers to eaters?
Angler II
Posted 6/17/2010 8:53 PM (#446120 - in reply to #446115)
Subject: RE: Hooking Up on the 8




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try changing your retrieve in the middle of the retrieve. Vary speeds, motions etc. Make your bait look like it's trying to escape. I have had a lot of lazy fish this year as well so don't get down on yourself. If you feed them, they will eat!
bassinbob84
Posted 6/17/2010 9:06 PM (#446122 - in reply to #446115)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up on the 8




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Location: In a shack in the woods
Speed change has been key for me but follows haven't really haven't wanted 8. They are starting to way up in the northwoods though.
muskie_man
Posted 6/17/2010 9:38 PM (#446125 - in reply to #446115)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up on the 8





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Location: South Portsmouth, KY
In the last 10 to 15 feet or so speed that bait up as fast as you can get and change the direction of your rod to the right or left, which either way is eaiser for you so you can then transition into the 8 smoothly
ToddM
Posted 6/17/2010 10:14 PM (#446132 - in reply to #446115)
Subject: RE: Hooking Up on the 8





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Location: oswego, il
Throw somthing diffferent that is fast and very erratic. You can get a decent reaction hit on a bait like that. A lure like a zalt or a 9" zam, a bananna jerkbait, tr twitcher, something you can twitch or jerk really hard and fast with a pause.
619musky
Posted 6/18/2010 9:10 AM (#446172 - in reply to #446115)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up on the 8





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Making wide turns on your 8 is what i think is most important into getting strikes. The other thing is that keep a controlled speed on the 8, if you have a bait like a jerkbait, it is really easy to go to fast and pull it away from the fish.
Your figure-8 will get better the more follows you have.
tuffy1
Posted 6/18/2010 10:59 AM (#446200 - in reply to #446172)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up on the 8





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Location: Racine, Wi
I would say make sure you're not only speeding up at the end of the cast, but make a smooth transition into the 8. I try to keep the bait going into the 8 at the same depth it was at initially, which means lowering your tip into the water before the bait gets there. Then a nice easy transition into the 8, where your movements aren't distracting the fish and it can stay focused on the bait. Then make your turns and depth/speed changes from there. I think keeping a smooth transition into the 8 is critical though rather than being suprised that you have a fish chasing and slamming the rod down in the water at the last minute.
esoxaddict
Posted 6/18/2010 11:20 AM (#446206 - in reply to #446115)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up on the 8





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It took me several years before I stopped scaring the fish away. The best way I can explain it is make sure your figure 8 is part of your cast, and not something you do when the cast is over.
tuffybones
Posted 6/18/2010 11:51 AM (#446218 - in reply to #446206)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up on the 8




Posts: 52


boated 4 fish last saturday morning and three of the 4 ate in the figure 8. Smooth transition into the 8 with the first turn being wide and faster than the retreive speed was the key to turning 3 non eaters into hooked fish. Wide fast first turns have caught me way more fish in the 8. Hope this helps you figure it out.
jvkop2
Posted 6/18/2010 12:20 PM (#446226 - in reply to #446115)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up on the 8




Posts: 75


For bucktails: speeding up, bulging, stopping then starting, having the bucktail break the surface so when it starts back up it makes a huge commotion and leaves a bubble trail, etc. Don't just reel a bucktail in with a straight retrieve at a medium speed as there is no real trigger for a fish to eat.
jay lip ripper
Posted 6/18/2010 12:37 PM (#446233 - in reply to #446115)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up on the 8





Posts: 392


Location: lake x...where the hell is it?
maybe take note of the time of day this happends, is it happen on the feeding windows or not? do you go back to these fish on the windows to see if that followers will eat on the window. all of the above is great advice but it dont matter if the fish just wont eat. the windows matter regardless of what anyone thinks cause there are to many guys with fish logs to many articals and to much talk about it to be ignored. fish when you can but fish the windows if you can. check this out for the windows.
http://www.fishingreminder.com

i hope it helps, good luck!
MuskieFever
Posted 6/19/2010 3:12 PM (#446359 - in reply to #446115)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up on the 8




Posts: 572


Location: Maplewood, MN
any theories on if the color of your hull makes a difference? mine is light tan
esoxfly
Posted 6/19/2010 3:35 PM (#446362 - in reply to #446359)
Subject: Re: Hooking Up on the 8





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Location: Kodiak, AK
MuskieFever - 6/19/2010 4:12 PM

any theories on if the color of your hull makes a difference? mine is light tan


That's been discussed here a couple of times before. Everyone has their own opinion, but general consensus is "no."
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