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Location: north central wisconsin | I just got two of these reels as upgrades for my older morrums. I am a bit concerned that I didn't ask about the gear ratio before agreeing to the upgrade, as they have the 5.3:1. With that said, these reels will specifically be for the big AC-10 type lures(double 10 tails) and jerk baits. I'd think it will be more than fine for line pickup with jerks and cranks, but I am concerned with fatigue with the big bucktails as that was the reason I went with them. Has anyone used these reels(they are a bit narrower than some of the older 7000's and have instant anti now) with success with the big double 10 tails? can you compare them to a morrum, calcutta or Millionaire(all reels I've tried to use these lures with) for level of fatigue? I am hoping that the winch style gears, big handle and high spool will equate to some repreive but would like some honest input before taking them out of the box. Thanks in advance.
Edited by Reef Hawg 6/1/2007 9:42 PM
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| this big reel takes all the work out of pulling those bid 10's . You have never seen a buckail burned until you get these on the water.I use 7000c3's calcutta B's and the 7000ihsn is used specifically for the DCG. |
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| Jason I am 100% positive 5 to 3 ratio is to high for burning double 10's It will work but you will get claw hand and will put added strain on your arms you need to get a 4 to 1 or 4.5 to 1 (abu 7000 pro rocket, penn 975 etc just to name a few. Mike |
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| I have a couple of the older black Abu Garcia 7000 Big Games with the 5.3:1 gear ratio. Pulling the bigger blades with that gear ratio can be done, but its a work out after a bit. I agee with the above post and go with a lower gear ratio if you want to pull the big double bladed tails.
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| Return one and get a 7000iCS Pro Rocket. The lower ration will save you |
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| Nobody slow wakes/bulges these things I guess? Smaller/easier pulling the bait the faster I wind it in. Do you have to burn out your forearms for a bucktail with #10 blades to catch fish on it? I tied up a a few this winter, they're gonna travel slowww. Double blades that size to me has always meant slow, easy target. I'll try burning the hell out of them too I guess. |
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| hey Jason,
i've got both the 7000iCS (4:1) and the 7000iHSN (5:1) and have ran the d-10s on both reels this spring.
the HSN (5:1) will pull them, but you'll feel the fatique after a bit. not as bad as a smaller reel like a Calcutta, but it's there.
also, and possibly more important imho, it's harder to "burst" the bucktails since there's so much more resistance being transferred to your hand. yes, you can go faster with it, but not for as long (fatique) and not as suddenly (burst).
the CS (4:1) pulls them with ease, you hardly notice they're there and can run them for long periods without wearing out. obviously the baits move slower on a standard retrieve, but are much easier to do quick bursts of change to speed since you've got power to spare.
i'm using my HSN for big jerkbaits, dawgs, etc.
the CS is reserved for the big XX's, XXX's and Ring Blings.
since you got two of the HSN reels, why not return one for a CS and then you've got on-the-water options...?
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| You could also change the gears on the reel if you prefer the narrow spool. |
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| That is something I'd like to do, change the gears. i wonder if Chuck Brod can get them for me. I would think it would pick up as much line as any other 7000 reel with 4.1 gears, so long as the spools are the same diameter. I think I'll try one as is, then switch the gears out in one. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | Reef Hawg - 6/2/2007 2:06 PM
That is something I'd like to do, change the gears. i wonder if Chuck Brod can get them for me. I would think it would pick up as much line as any other 7000 reel with 4.1 gears, so long as the spools are the same diameter. I think I'll try one as is, then switch the gears out in one.
I would bet Chuck would have those gears in stock. |
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Location: Verona, WI | I couldn't find a 7000iHSN but ended up buying a 7000iC3 as I heard they were very close to the same real. I was amazed at how well the 7000iC3 handed the big double 10 bucktails - you could cast these all day without much trouble with this real.
Sorry if I hijacked the thread.
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Go with the regular 7000 for 10's. I killed a iHSN in a few hours running them. I've got a 7000B that I underspooled just a bit and a XX feels like a small flasher. |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Just an update. I changed the gears out on a couple 7000 ihsn reels and they have been awesome. The cast controls take some getting used to(casting AC-10's into the wind all day) but I really like them. What has really surprised me is the smoothness of the drag. A couple big fish have made some long runs and I cannot beleive how smooth the drags response was. I wonder is the big diameter spool helps with this. |
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