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Message Subject: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)
Slamr
Posted 9/11/2003 3:22 PM (#81262)
Subject: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





Posts: 7119


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Since this is the lake that started this idea, lets give it a try:

Variables:

360 Acre Lake

7-9ft of Visibility

Forage: sucker, panfish, perch

Northern Oneida Country

Time: beginning of November.

How would you fish it? (baits, colors)
Where would you fish on the lake?

*the first attachment is the top of the lake map, the bottom connects to that.
**if someone knows how to mark numbers on a word doc like this over the map to number spots that would be great!





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Slamr
Posted 9/11/2003 3:28 PM (#81264 - in reply to #81262)
Subject: RE: FIrst Weekly Lake Topic (Test Run)





Posts: 7119


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Comments related to the Northeastern Bay (first attachment, right hand corner) from the original post:

The attachment is about a 75 acre bay in a 400 acre lake I'm fishing in early November up in Oneida/Vilas counties. Check out the deep water hump....nice drop to deeper water, but the rise is only to about 22'. I have 3 days to fish the lake, so I have the time to hit every inch of it, but does a rise that doesn't come even close to being surface structure become a fish holding spot? Check out the attachment, tell me YOUR opinion.

Yes it will, especially if there are shad in the lake. Surrounded by deep water, and there may be some ledges, large rocks etc. that are not discernable on the surface...*try that small section at 25'...must be a slight rise there before it hits the 30' contour.

Slamr- Definitely. On a clearwater lake, a 48" fish would only have to move 5 body lengths to get to the surface from that hump. How long is your Patriot? That's not far, eh? Fish it, I hope you stick a pig there.

Were it I, I'd sling a top water over the top of the hump in a fanning motion. Then I'd sit off the 25' side of the hump, cast a deep diver to the top of the hump and crank it down over the 25' section. I'd also fish the deep side(45-48') of the hump, as baitfish may be suspended over the deep water off the hump. To the left of the 22' hump, there appears to be a small hump that reads 10'; I'd also fish that for sure.

Slamr, great question and map to dissect. I would spend more of my time on the 10 foot hump and saddle next to the deep breaking shoreline. I don't know if the small hump you are talking about would be significant enough to spend much time on but I hope those with more experience pipe in and show me to be wrong. In the late fall in northern Wisconsin I especially like deep water points and steep breaking shorelines. I look for green weeds like anyone else but also spend time on the rocky humps and saddles around islands. Is this a clear water lake as I think that would make a difference too for me?

Definately hit that hump! I would first fish it with a countdown crankbait and rip it off the bottom. A perch depthraider would be perfect. I would pay particular attention to the contour line of 30 feet where it extends farther to the right of the map, and the deep side of the hump where it drops to 48'. Also, like said in an earlier post travel over to the other small hump and fish that as well. In fact I would be inclined to cast my way from one hump to the other.
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With that deep hole near by, post turnover period, you bet. Unless your totally against it, I'd rig up a couple of quick strike suckers with one on the bottom and another half way down. Then do as the others suggested, crank it!

I would be all over it for sure. Multiple times. This to me feels like a big fish spot so you may want to hit quite a few times...may not see any fish 6 visits...but that one time...Yes the shore related stuff seems better in the fall...BUT...that isn't that far off and this isn't a cisco based lake. I would work the snot out of it with a slow crank..I personally am fired up to work the triple D's VERY slow and methodical late in the fall with coffee breaks for pauses...Another method that I like is drifting and vertical jigging bulldogs or live action lures off the bottom...make contact! Of course the sucker running close to the bottom at all times gets my bet too...I also agree the deep side of both the shore related humps look good.

One more thing. Like Cory said hit that hump multiple times. My biggest fish to date came on a similar hump in November, and that was only the second fish I ever saw on it. The first fish I beleive was the same fish, but I'll never know since it broke through the bag of my net that same year in July.

Make sure you hit that hump right at dusk since that is when the suckers like to come up on top of those structures. Make bottom contact!!!

I would also hit the large (food) shelf just South of the hump (not shown) especially if it is a sunny day.

Slamr The spot is "Golden" pun intended!! However the November time frame may as in might make other deep shorline related areas better depending on forage base etc etc etc. Samll isolated humps such as this are usually more consistent than larger deep bars because of narrowing the area the muskie will be in.Great suggestions already given as to baits to work the area over with. The key answer already given is to return often to the spot throughout the day. The spot could be still good in that time frame dpending upon the other structural elements present on the lake.




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MJB_04
Posted 9/11/2003 4:53 PM (#81274 - in reply to #81262)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





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I don't know about anybody else, but these really help for a newbie as myself learning to read lakes and lake maps. This is great idea.

MJB
DJH
Posted 9/11/2003 8:23 PM (#81292 - in reply to #81274)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)




Posts: 120


Location: Chicago, IL
The hump looks great and everything... but this lake has unlimited structural oportunities above and beyond that deep hump. I would first check out every point/ledge that has an inside turn associated with it. The steeper the better and if it has any other structural variances i.e. weeds rocks then you are in serious trouble.


Slamr
Posted 9/12/2003 3:56 PM (#81395 - in reply to #81262)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
bttt
sworrall
Posted 9/12/2003 6:13 PM (#81400 - in reply to #81262)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





Posts: 32958


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

Just the top section. I am assuming this is oriented North.

The area that shelves out into the deep, narrow funnel at the lower left looks really good. Gliders and jigs there covering the whole thing including the deep saddle. Move along the break keeping the boat in about 18' on the west side, paralleling the breakline keeping the boat deep and casting long. Same lures, maybe go to hair or a Suick for the inside man. Pound that point, then move along the really nice piece of water that shows the two humps and a nice saddle, cover that inside to shore, inside to bar, and then out around the bar, long casts. Add a Triple D or Slammer Deep Diver to the mix there. Really pound the inside turns where the two structures meet the shoreline break, these are naturals. Hit the food shelf on the top from about 15' to the shallows, then work the shoreline veggies, docks, trees, whatever is there paying a bit of attention to each of the small points along the way and careful attention to the real tight contour lines just past the shelf. Keep the boat in 18'to 20', long casts. The map lists weeds or pads on the shoreline break. If those are still there, hit them as you go. Shoud be able to reach them most of the time from pretty deep water.

 

MAN that funnel and the twin points looks good...

Head out and work the 20' hump, Dogs, Gliders, Cranks, whatever suits if the sky isn't TOO terrible bright. If it is, go down there after them with a Dawg or a Creature.

 

That is what I would do.

esoxjunkie
Posted 9/12/2003 9:07 PM (#81413 - in reply to #81262)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





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Location: in the white boat
As you're working those humps and the points make sure you have one guy throwing over the deep water with a big crankbait.
Slamr
Posted 9/18/2003 5:04 PM (#82158 - in reply to #81262)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
btttttt
ESOX Maniac
Posted 9/24/2003 3:09 PM (#82787 - in reply to #82158)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





Posts: 2754


Location: Mauston, Wisconsin

Slamr- Got distracted by my day job-(trip to Denmark) - but was thinking about this little excersize. How's this look, i.e., numbering of spot's. BTW- How did you do on the 22' hump?

Al Warner

http://www.zaltnad.com

OOOOOOPs- got two #8's, but you get the idea. Did it w/ a drawing program I have then edited margins and junk info w/ MS Photo Editor.



Edited by ESOX Maniac 9/24/2003 3:16 PM



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Chris Haley
Posted 9/24/2003 9:48 PM (#82824 - in reply to #81262)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





Posts: 73


Location: Hazard KY
Can you troll in Onedia county? a Lake that small you could fish every hump and point in a 1/2 day. If you can't troll Working bulldawgs on clear WI lake has worked for me or Twitching 10" jakes over humps and sand bars.

This is to depressing to me it sounds like Dec. and Jan. fishing down here our water temps are still 77 and they are eating anything that moves. \

Fish hard
Chris Haley
www.kentuckymuskie.com
Slamr
Posted 9/24/2003 10:01 PM (#82826 - in reply to #81262)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Hey EM, very cool what you did with the Map! I have to try the photo editing functions on XP better at work where I have it (BS home at '98). You got all but 2 spots where I have caught or two fishes!
Chris, no trolling in Oneida, and thanks for the tips! Have done well on 'dawgs and big jakes on that water in the past!

Slamr
Posted 11/6/2003 10:50 AM (#87178 - in reply to #81262)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





Posts: 7119


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Fishing this Friday-Sunday (God keeping the ice away that is) any last minute suggestions?

sworrall
Posted 11/6/2003 10:07 PM (#87251 - in reply to #87178)
Subject: RE: First Weekly Lake Topic (How Would You Fish It?)





Posts: 32958


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Yes. Bring your tip-ups.
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