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PounderDawg
Posted 4/26/2012 8:02 PM (#556040)
Subject: XXH for Burning




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Will an XXH rod work very well for burning 10s and 12s? With a big reel, about the size of the trinidad, will it cast well?
cast10K
Posted 4/26/2012 8:40 PM (#556047 - in reply to #556040)
Subject: RE: XXH for Burning




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Location: Eagan, MN
Which make/model? Ratings vary from company to company.

I think pretty much any xxh will 'burn' them, but most are too stiff to load up on the cast imo.
PounderDawg
Posted 4/26/2012 8:43 PM (#556049 - in reply to #556040)
Subject: RE: XXH for Burning




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Tackle Industries 9ft
muskie! nut
Posted 4/26/2012 8:49 PM (#556053 - in reply to #556040)
Subject: Re: XXH for Burning





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Location: Yahara River Chain
Need to know action and length.

I doubt if a 6 foot xxh would work for D10s or D12s but a 8 foot or better will. An extra slow action will work but wont cast worth a cr@p. A action too fast might not e the best either as you reel it will have a big bend in the rod.
FAT-SKI
Posted 4/27/2012 8:39 AM (#556129 - in reply to #556040)
Subject: RE: XXH for Burning




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Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished
I would say, if your looking at the TI 9' XXH that should be fine. It may be a little to stiff when trying to cast the big blades especially in big wind. If it is going to be used primarily for blades I would go with the 9' XH, I just picked one up and it is SWEEETTT! It loads great and flings those blade a long ways. I love mine. Been using it at a pond by my house. As said on another post, if you are going to be mainly using it for #8 and #10 blades and stuff up to 9oz I would get the XH, if you are going to be tossing DBL 12s, 13s, 14s or anything bigger then 9oz, then you would want to go with the XXH. It just depends what you will be throwing most with it. I throw a lot of blades in the #8 - #10 range so the XH was perfect for me.
kodiak
Posted 4/27/2012 8:44 AM (#556130 - in reply to #556040)
Subject: Re: XXH for Burning





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Location: Okoboji
big nasty
RStien321
Posted 4/27/2012 8:47 AM (#556133 - in reply to #556040)
Subject: Re: XXH for Burning




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The slower the rod, the more it will bend throughout. A true "slow" rod will be almost parabolic in bend. If you could have any rod action to fight a fish, it would be slow, no question. The action basically allows the rod to act as a huge shock absorber.

The faster the rod, the more "sensitive" the rod will seem. A fast action rod will bend mostly at the tip. They allow you to detect bites very well, and usually have plenty of backbone. If you could have one action for retrieve of a lure and for the hookset, you would choose a fast action rod.

The issue that you see with bucktails are that they do not cast well (light weight and no aerodynamics to speak of), they still put out up to 5lb of force on the retrieve (depending on how fast you retrieve them), and you still want to have enough of the "shock absorber" characteristic to keep the fish pinned. So you need a rod with a soft tip to cast the bucktail far and keep the fish pinned, but still have the backbone to retrieve the lure and have power left for a hookset.

To do this, I would look at a 9' or more rod with a fast tip. The extra length will give you the lever arm to cast far, and the extra length will be more forgiving with a fish on the line, while the fast taper required to have backbone available for the hookset. I like my 9'6 heavy predator - if I was going with an off-the-shelf rod I would look at the Big Nasty.
Brad P
Posted 4/27/2012 9:32 AM (#556149 - in reply to #556040)
Subject: Re: XXH for Burning




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To add on to Mr. Stein's great post:

The other factor to balance in the tip is softness on the figure 8. This is more subjective, some guys will tolerate the wet noodle in exchange for ease of casting, but you need to keep those blades turning for the 8 to be effective. The offset is that the bow in the rod on the "wet noodle" will reduce the size and overall effectiveness of your figure 8.
I also love my 9'6" Predator for this application.
bowhunter29
Posted 4/27/2012 9:42 AM (#556154 - in reply to #556040)
Subject: Re: XXH for Burning





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Location: South-Central PA
To answer your question, the TI XXH is best for double 12's and larger. The TI XH will work great with 10's and under.

jeremy
muskyhunter47
Posted 4/27/2012 1:47 PM (#556196 - in reply to #556040)
Subject: Re: XXH for Burning




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Location: Minnesota
I have a Thorn Bros 9'6" Predator X Hevy with a Trinidad reel great combo
kodiak
Posted 4/27/2012 2:49 PM (#556203 - in reply to #556040)
Subject: Re: XXH for Burning





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Location: Okoboji
the sling blade and the nasty and i assume the preds (st croix blanks) are freeking sweet at casting blades....at the top of the cast they just flick the blades out there...sweet as hell.
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